eBay to Erase a Rich History of Its Site

by: airbrake

Just as in Animal Farm, Ebay is up to no good with this move.

by: Rexford

And just like the White House.  Monkey see, monkey do.

by: pace306

eBay to erase history of enRICHING itself

fixed it for you

Its called hiding the evidence. you cant complain about what WAS, if you dont know any better. Old eBay = bad old days, NEW eBay is new, shiny and good.

DOPES

by: Shanna

Mt favorite was when a poster asked Griff and Jeff id eBay made money on shipping labels. Jeff said no and Griff said yes.

by: etectra

They have been doing this for years!

A search on Google will lead you to a eBay community discussion, but when you try to access it eBay redirects the page to something else, displays a message the content is no longer available, a error message, and so forth.

This also applies to past eBay policies and official guidelines previous published. eBay does not want to admit; for instance, that it defrauded sellers on its by charging higher commercial base rates and $50 insurance to non top rated sellers and lower commercial plus rates and $100 insurance to top rated sellers all the while you could get $100 insurance lower commercial plus rates from sites such as PirateShip.

LOL, a eBay rep, told me that certain materials that were specifically about eBay are no longer available as they were hosted on PayPal. I wish I had a $1.00 for every time I told these reps they were liars.

They will also block your IP from accessing the Community altogether.

They will also do temporary bans from their chat system and phone support. The phone call must be accessed through their chat system, which will not longer display an option for a phone call while the chat will display some type of message such as "We are currently not available". Of course if you visit the site using a VPN enabled browser that all goes away.

Or maybe they will display the "You've exceeded the number of requests allowed in one day. Please try again tomorrow." message when trying to contact eBay. Translation is that you called them on their compulsive lies and keep contacting because they have given no answer so they need to be free to con other users.

Various messages are displayed such as "{"error_id":"invalid_request","error_description":"Input request parameters are invalid.","http_status_code":400}" in the browser, which goes away once your IP is hidden from them.

Or perhaps display a error message stating you are flooding the chats so you can't post.

eBay Community mods will ban you for anything. They banned one of my accounts for telling users to use GarageSale, which was one of their Bronze level third party listing providers (silver now). The moronic mod thought it was a competing selling site.

This is why they also want to get rid of long term accounts. Us old timers know all their sins like the back of your hands. They want newbs who fall for the song and dance routine.

Why you should be saving PDF copies of entire post threads. Upload these to the Internet Archive.

Here is a recent project consisting of a large thread formerly on eBay's Community forums about RockStarFlipper (Casey Parris) posting the a copy of his off eBay website into the header of his eBay store, which has an entirely different name. This is being done to divert visitors off eBay to complete off eBay sales of various goods, services, so called eBay teaching classes and other nonsense intended to scam newbs.

Casey is also using stock photos for used goods. It does not matter if he takes a photos himself or one of his employees. If you take a photo of a new or used item to represent multiple copies of a used item that is a stock photo and is not allowed on eBay.

Casey is infamous for being found guilty of multiple counts of fraud by a judge and order to pay Sprint $5 million in damages plus interest. You can find the case online.

His replies are full of multiple lies and he threatens to have the thread removed due to contacts he has in eBay. About the only thing he said that was true was that yes indeed he was a speaker at a live event. Well that makes sense as he matches the type of people that run eBay.

He states in the thread the $5 million judgement can't be true as Sprint is no longer in business and he is. LOL, Sprint merged with T-Mobile as anyone not living under a rock knows. He does not drive multiple six figure cars. His house is not worth what he said it is according to public records. In fact, the house has decreased dramatically and is ultimately irreverent. The same amount of money here would get you a larger house, horse barn and lighted riding area, and multiple acres of land.

https://archive.org/details/1-seller-reported-for-hundred
s-of-violations-of-e-bay...-the-e-bay-community/1%20Seller%20Reported%20for%20Hundreds%20of%20Violations%20of%20eBay...%20-%20The%20eBay%20Community.pdf

https://archive.org/details/1-seller-reported-for-hundreds-of-violations-of-e-bay...-the-e-bay-community/2%20Seller%20Reported%20for%20Hundreds%20of%20Violations%20of%20eBay...%20-%20Page%202%20-%20The%20eBay%20Community.pdf

https://archive.org/details/1-seller-reported-for-hundreds-of-violations-of-e-bay...-the-e-bay-community/3%20Seller%20Reported%20for%20Hundreds%20of%20Violations%20of%20eBay...%20-%20Page%203%20-%20The%20eBay%20Community.pdf

https://archive.org/details/1-seller-reported-for-hundreds-of-violations-of-e-bay...-the-e-bay-community/4%20Seller%20Reported%20for%20Hundreds%20of%20Violations%20of%20eBay...%20-%20Page%204%20-%20The%20eBay%20Community.pdf

by: etectra

You should contact your state attorney general to get a court injunction preventing eBay from removing the materials until they are archived and made publicly available as this clearly has to do with eBay covering up its tracks.

by: Rogue

  The next🤡E~Bay rewrite is the type to make you feel crazy🤪.    Didn’t this just happen?
 History is the way that humanity understands its past. In fact, the word breaks down quite easily into two others: his story. And history is just that. The history we are told about the past rarely comes from firsthand or even secondhand accounts. Instead, stories are passed on, sometimes modified and embellished, and eventually, history becomes fact. This gives 🤡E~Bay, and its subsidiaries authors an undue influence on what some will now perceive as history.
 Throughout time, this has happened many times (and probably even more times that we will never know about). For various reasons, 🤡E~Bay has tried to change history by either rewriting it or removing something from it altogether. The reasons for these changes are rarely wholesome. Rather, the 🤡E~Bay organization wanted to make themselves (or a group they associated with) seem less culpable in their atrocities.
  Propaganda and historical revisionism have been around since humans started keeping records of our history. The list below outlines ten now “Eleven” examples of entities who tried (mostly unsuccessfully) to rewrite history.

   The Battle of Agincourt
   Lost Cause of the Confederacy
   The Pink Swastika
   January 6th, 2021
   Tiananmen Square Massacre
   Japanese War Crimes in World War II
   Irish Slaves Myth
   Turkey Denial of Armenian Genocide
   Nanking Massacre
   Holocaust Denial
 🤡E~Bay

by: etectra

eBay = Corporate Terrorist

by: my2cents

Ebay changes and adds new rules all the time.  That "rich history" is likely mostly outdated and only causes issues of its own if people follow the advice.  I know I've seen that a lot myself.  

On this site there are often complaints about all the changes that happen on a regular basis.  So how can getting rid of threads with outdated information be a bad thing?

by: Rogue

  With 🤡E~Bay Rewriting its History, a deep trademark research is necessary to remove the mask to get at the truth behind the distortions and omissions of 🤡E~Bay's memoir, this “Rewriting” objective demonstrates how 🤡E~Bay trys to dodge criticism by pretending that every attack is directed not just at them, but at every working individual in America.
 🤡E~Bay the paranoid who sees all those who disagree with them as personal enemies; whom views themselvess as the idealist, but also the ''advice addict'' however their easily misled by the guru of the moment. The 🤡E~Bay of today is marketing a false front, obscuring both their wants and their assets behind the phony facade of a domestic Everyday ecommerce company.
 Will 🤡E~Bay, every, see the error of their ruthless ways, and embrace the sincere idealism they profess? Or, like other monopolies, will 🤡E~Bay allow the darker angels of their nature continue to engulf them.
 We can only hope that 🤡E~Bay's past performance is no guarantee of future results.

by: my2cents

@Rogue
I'm just curious.  How is Ebay "rewriting" history with this change?  Old threads have been removed before.  How are they important with all the changes that happen on the site?  IMHO far too many changes.

How is the criticism or points of views of various procedures and policies that don't exist or have had dramatic changes?

by: Twokats

Oh, no! We're going to lose all of those posts whining about slow sales and 'scam negs'???

The forums were destroyed some years back when a complete eBay hack who was 'director of communications' but had no notion of the forums (had never even been there...despite his job title) hired Lithium as a bolt-on to overhaul them and turn them into the mostly useless pap they are now.

I'm not seeing them getting any worse.  

by: Andy

Khoros is merely the latest third-party discussion forum provider that eBay contracted to run the Community groups. They have had their own share of bugs and search issues, not to mention infuriatingly ham-fisted moderation activity, run by moderators who are apparently under orders to not interact with the participants on any discussion topics, and delete any discussions about the moderation itself.

As a moderator on two other sites (non-eBay) over the years, I find that approach to be idiotic, and in that regard, I won't miss Khoros when they're gone. What eBay is going to do next is anyone's guess. I personally hope that they will farm it out to some other forum supplier who will do a better job than Khoros. I would not want to see eBay attempting to code it themselves, as they have not demonstrated any abilities to do so in the past.

As for preserving the past discussions on the site, eBay has been discarding old threads for some years now. I remember having a rather entertaining exchange with one of the eBay execs (now gone, I think), who kept saying that the older material had been ''archived.'' We pointed out that ''archive'' meant that it could be retrieved on request if needed, right? (That, after all, is what an archive is.) The reply was, um, no, ''archive'' meant that they had deleted it.

“When I use a word,'' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ''it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.''

''The question is,'' said Alice, ''whether you can make words mean so many different things.''

''The question is,'' said Humpty Dumpty, ''which is to be master — that’s all.”

― Lewis Carroll, ''Through the Looking Glass''

by: Rogue

my2cents@ just curious
 🤡E~Bay’s recent move to “rewrite” or remove old threads from its platform is conceptually about altering or erasing past records so they no longer appear in the public or active history
What “Rewriting History” Means
 🤡E~Bay, rewriting history means changing or removing commits so they no longer match the current state of the repository. This involves:
    • Deleting sensitive data (e.g., API keys, passwords) from old commits.
    • Removing old files or threads from the history so they can’t be recovered.
    • Changing commit hashes so old references become invalid
 When you rewrite history, you create new commits with updated content, which shifts the commit graph. This means:
    • Old commits become unreachable unless someone has a local copy that hasn’t been updated.
    • Collaborators must re-clone or reset their local branches to match the new history
    • Metadata changes (like commit hashes) can break tools or workflows that rely on stable references
 Why 🤡E~Bay Is Doing This
  On 🤡E~Bay, “rewriting history” likely entails:
    • Removing old threads from the public view so they can’t be accessed or referenced.
    • Preventing recontamination — if someone has cached or archived old threads, rewriting ensures they can’t be pulled back into the active history.
    • Security or compliance — if old threads contain sensitive user data or outdated information, erasing them reduces exposure.
  Risks and Side Effects
 Rewriting history is not without consequences:
    • Data loss risk — if not done judiciously, you would “Inadvertently” delete useful information
    • Collaboration disruption — users who have local copies of the old threads will need to re-sync or re-clone
    • Broken references — any links, diffs, or automated tools relying on old commit hashes will break
    • Temporary visibility — in some cases, old commits may linger in caches or reflogs until garbage collection runs
🤡E~Bay’s Practices for UN~Safe Rewriting
   🤡E~Bay is doing this internally or for sensitive data:
                                    “They are NOT”
    • Backing up the original history before rewriting.
                                      “They ARE”
    • Using targeted tools (like filter-repo) to remove only the unwanted content, preserving advantageous history “what they want”
    • Revoke or rotate secrets by rewriting to deplete or avoid  others reusing old credentials
    • Coordinate with all collaborators to avoid merge conflicts.
 In short: 🤡E~Bay’s “rewriting history” is a controlled erasure of old threads from the platform’s active history, much like rewriting commits to remove sensitive data. It’s a way to clean up the record, but it requires suspicious preparation to avoid breaking existing references or losing useful information.
      ”AKA = UPDATES!”
          Hopefully this answers you Intrigue

by: my2cents

@Rogue
We simply don't agree, no big deal.  I don't see the thread history as having as much importance and you hold them to.  Again, just a different view point, nothing more.

by: Valaset

@electra

I think it is time for you to switch to decalf.  Or perhaps find another site to sell on.  You seem VERY angry at EBAY.

I have been selling on the platform for nearly 25 years.  In the last 90 days I have made 791 sales for $81,995.  Do you know how many times I have contacted EBAY support in that time?  Once.

I probably contact them once every 3-6 months for something.  That is it.  If you are doing a good job RUNNING YOUR BUSINESS, then you would not complain about EBAY and their policies.

Is it disappointing that their boards will disappear prior to 2023?  Sure.  But in reallity, it is all old material.  Much of which is no longer relavant.

Focus on your business.  Stop blaming EBAY for your problems.

by: Shanna

etectra, I have the screen shots and link from when "JARVIS" using an eBay employee posting account, admitted that eBay has dozens of secret account selling limits. Amazingly, the world best technology company thought deleting the posts would make it go away. Hey eBay, its been 12 years, and we have not forgotten!

by: Shanna

Andy: " I would not want to see eBay attempting to code it themselves, as they have not demonstrated any abilities to do so in the past."

We are talking about the world's greatest technology company! I'm sure if they offered a 2! sandwich bonus, one of their IT specialist code code one in their spare time!

by: Snapped

As for it being a concern because info might be used while OBE, a simple disclaimer window of such sage advice to avoid using it (due to it’s rot) before revealing any query result is certainly doable.  If they cared to.

As far as purging records go in the general sense - businesses do it all the time.  BUT, there ARE requirements to keep business records for longer than the arbitrary 3 years eBay is dartboarding here, so there’s that.  This includes my ‘correspondence’ that might be involved with any transaction, be it direct or indirectly involved.  

In any event, eBay isn’t focusing on just purging identifiably obsolete data.  They drew a line on a calendar.  Time alone is not THE defining measure of obsolescence.  

When it comes to both old AND new(er) information however, one can only wonder if eBay would be so quick to have it purged if it were something they were proud of.  

by: Snapped

@ Andy - excellent Lewis Carrol reference there.