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Wed Oct 23 2019 11:42:22

Ramifications of Etsy Free Shipping Program

By: Reader

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Dear Ina,
Simple question. With Etsy free shipping program, do sellers offering free shipping realize they have to raise prices when rates go up every year?

Do they realize they will have to include box prices when USPS no longer offers free boxes?

Also, I have not heard a word about Etsy's worldwide free shipping program that was to take effect in September?
Thank you
John



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by: FeelingFroggy This user has validated their user name.

Wed Oct 23 11:49:19 2019

You are assuming that sellers are somewhat stupid when it comes to shipping costs. When prices goes up that is the first thing any seller does if not sooner.

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by: hopeforthebest This user has validated their user name.

Wed Oct 23 12:07:18 2019

No, we're all too stupid to realize that we'll need to pay for boxes if they're not free.

Seriously?

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by: TheStoneColdTruth This user has validated their user name.

Wed Oct 23 16:10:03 2019

I'm pretty sure any seller worth his/her weight in widgets knows how to figure out how to price their items when offering free shipping.

Most sellers start raising their prices when new shipping rates are announced.

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Wed Oct 23 16:57:37 2019

"Most sellers start raising their prices when new shipping rates are announced."

Of course. Which is why it continues to be a mystery that so many buyers seem to get all afluttery when they see 'free' shipping offered. Or in too many cases now, effectvely compelled to offer - because it's the compellor who profits from it.

The better question to ask is - don't the buyers realize there is no 'free' associated with the cost of shipping?

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by: Garcia This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 00:58:57 2019

Sellers are not stupid, but buyers have to be if they do not realize that a seller has no other option than to raise the price of their item to include the farthest part of the country their package may ship, thus costing closer buyers much more money.  Buyers are suffering so much more when they are offered free shipping then when they have pay for shipping.  Then the seller can refund the excess postage if there is any, but how can you refund what you didn't charge for?

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by: BargainzBabylon This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 01:52:57 2019

Slow news day? This letter just states the obvious.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Oct 24 02:24:48 2019

I changed all my listings on Etsy to offer Free Shipping.  And yes I'm aware that when I have a vendor such as USPS raise pricing that I too need to raise pricing.  That is just a normal part of business.  

But what I find curious.  Is that as soon as I went to Free Shipping, my sales dropped off a cliff.

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by: Sierra This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 02:48:27 2019

My Etsy sales have always been sporadic. I added Etsy's GFS over $35 about a month ago. My sales are still sporadic.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: The End

Thu Oct 24 03:13:29 2019

Combining shipping with the price of the item adulterates the real value of the item.
Less than 30% of Etsiers fold in shipping with their prices.
Responsible Etsiers will NOT include shipping in the price.

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by: Sierra This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 04:56:22 2019

Gotta do what it takes to be found in Etsy search; otherwise, what's the point?

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by: Tiffee Jasso This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 05:23:04 2019

Buyers also have to pay sales tax on shipping costs. I don't see the advantage of free shipping. When I have tried it, my sales drop to zero.  

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by: littlesaint This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 05:31:53 2019

I don't have any problem being found on Etsy and refuse to offer anything for ''free''. There are 2 million sellers on Etsy. Maybe 50 of them get priority placement on any given search. This is supposed to motivate an entire platform of sellers to conflate their price points in order to accommodate fake, inflated quarterly profits for stakeholders. If you are not diversifying, utilizing social media to drive buyers and relying solely on Etsy's Useless Search as a means of being found, you will remain on the gerbil wheel, right where Etsy wants you to stay. They know that the amount of time and effort that seller's put in to their inventory and shop will keep them from jumping ship as their sales tank, at least not right away. They rely on ''seller churn'' in order to sustain them because they have made it abundantly clear that there is an endless stream of dropshippers that are always available to keep them fat while the rest of us get the scraps. Yes, Etsy seller's ''realize'' that they have to increase prices and Etsy is confident that they will figure it out if they want to stay in their lottery game.

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by: maxmad This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 06:47:56 2019

For some buyers the lure of "free shipping" means free, but the majority of buyers know nothing is free,

End Result: When free shipping is not really free and simply added to the item cost, Sales eventually drop ,

Why?

When free shipping is first placed on your listings, you will see a slight gain in sales, these sales are from buyers seeking free, once that initial spike is done, it's all downhill, as mentioned the "Majority" of buyers know nothing is free, increasing the cost of items to cover "Fake Free Shipping" slowly but surely make your items look more expensive, this starts a chain reaction with search engines like Google which demote higher priced items, your business and your items start to get tagged as "Overpriced" "Do Not Buy" , "Ripoff"

Etsy claim to fame, you will receive better search results, with free shipping, Sure they might boost your items within etsy, but in reality search results within etsy are as close to meaningless as it gets, the fact is your items your business become "overpriced" in the real world of search. which is Google,

IMO, etsy's whole business model smells like a scam, it's based on convincing or forcing naive sellers to keep paying,for nothing, this latest free shipping thing is so warped, and so bad, it's not even that funny,

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by: Flying Childers This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 07:15:50 2019

Max Mad- LOVE your comment and it is so true.  I have tried doing everything the Etsy thugs demanded including make believe free shipping and so called advertising.
NOTHING WORKS.

Etsy has become the Crooked Casino where the players lose everything and the house always wins.

I have never made a lot of money with my Etsy shops but it was always enough to pay my expenses and make a few bucks.

Not anymore!  The fake advertising is the worst-  it is outright thievery.  Even if set your spending at $1 a day they still rip you off for more.  Also the stats are FALSE.

How does Etsy keep getting away with defrauding their customers??

When will they be prosecuted for their Ponzi scheme?

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by: ewegolf This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 08:33:48 2019

I stayed in-house and purchased shipping labels from a Etsy store.  I skipped the highly placed Free Shipping listing. I scrolled down and bought the same item, paid for shipping and saved money.  

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by: maxmad This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 08:48:02 2019

@Flying Childers

We ran 3 thriving etsy shops, we eventually closed all of them, not because of lack of business, all three had strong sales, we closed them because of etsy, and their underhanded crooked practices, the only thing you can do to these crooks is vote with your money,

We will never sell our products on etsy ever again, they will never earn 1 penny from us, they can rot in hell.

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This user has validated their user name. by: The End

Thu Oct 24 10:48:19 2019

@ Sierra :
No. It's MY BUSINESS.
I Sell through Etsy.
Etsy doesn't set the rules for MY business.
Etsy no longer knows what its business is.
MISSION CREEP.

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This user has validated their user name. by: The End

Thu Oct 24 11:20:47 2019

@ Marie :
Marie has demonstrated how Potential buyers perceive the "free shipping" scam as a differentiator between cheap China Crap and legitimate "Made in America" items.
Genuine American Artists won't offer free shipping.  

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by: Eagle This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 12:47:53 2019

We haven't added our shipping costs to the item cost to offer the fake free shipping. Our traffic is down, but sales are about the same which doesn't say much? We have 3-4 items which repeat sales is equal to 85% of our total sales at Etsy. If anything, we'll just relist the 3-4 items and let the rest expire. We played the free shipping game with them last year during Christmas rush. Ended up with a few angry customers when they were charged restock fee to cover the shipping when returning items.

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by: OnlyPollyPocket This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 24 12:55:36 2019

I don't participate in the free shipping carrot game.  I am sure that most buyers know that if shipping is ''free'', the item price has likely been inflated.

However, I will certainly pass on the free shipping to my buyers as soon as the post office gives free shipping to me :)

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