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Wed Nov 22 2017 20:30:34

Seller Compares Shoppers on Amazon, eBay, and Etsy

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Would you agree with this seller's blunt assessment of the type of shoppers found on Amazon, eBay, and Etsy?

Dear Ina
I have written to you before telling you how much I enjoy your blog/newsletter. I look forward to them as I find your stories very informative and very helpful with my selling on the big sites, Amazon, eBay, Etsy.

I list 20 products I build on Amazon, eBay, and Etsy. My sales on Amazon are approximately $20,000 gross every two weeks. Listing the same products on eBay and Etsy, I get almost Zero! "No Sales". Yes, No Sales!

I find that people who shop eBay are looking for cheap Chinese junk, and the people on Etsy are looking for products to steal and build themselves.

I wonder what is going on.

Kind Regards
Bruce




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by: ruthie This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 23 00:11:18 2017

Actually, this shopper is looking for antiques and true vintage, not Chinese junk.

Don't broad-brush buyers please.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Nov 23 02:50:58 2017

@Bruce

I think it is terrific that you have found something you can sell on Amazon at a rate you want.  I hope it has a good profit margin for you as well.

But because whatever you sell does well on Amazon but not on a couple other sites does not mean that those other sites do not have value.  What it means is that your stuff sells well on Amazon, which is great, but it doesn't mean more than that.

Ebay nor Etsy can be defined by a singular product [your item].  You trying to way over simplify things.

Ebay shoppers are NOT just looking for antiques and vintage items either.  Again that is trying to over simplify the vast variety of items selling on the site.  Although it should be noted that those categories are very important, just not the only active categories.

The over abundance of Asian seller and Asian products is NOT reserved just for Ebay and/or Etsy.  There are a whole lot of them on Amazon too.  They all have significant issues in this area.

Again, I'm very glad you are doing well on Amazon and I hope it continues for you.

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This user has validated their user name. by: toolguy

Thu Nov 23 07:29:31 2017

It would be nice if "Bruce" mentioned what he sold!

I sell exclusively on eBay and almost everything I sell is made in the USA. . .NO chinese JUNK HERE!

My customers are aircraft mechanics, race car builders & professionals looking for the unusual tool to do a specific job. . .

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by: FeelingFroggy This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 23 10:12:01 2017

Comparing sellers or buyers on either ebay, amazon etc is like comparing night and day.

There is none,

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This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Thu Nov 23 10:50:43 2017

I have to agree with Marie. Just because you (Bruce) are not able to generate sales on eBay or Etsy doesn't mean they are terrible places to sell.

Since Bruce doesn't indicate what he sells, it's hard to give an opinion on why he isn't finding success elsewhere. I couldn't sell anything when I had a store on Etsy, and my sales on eBay dwindled to almost zero when I quit selling there. The same items I listed on those sites are selling on eCrater.

I still buy on eBay, but I'm looking for items for my collections that I'm not able to get locally. I'm not looking for Chinese cell phone cases. So it's disingenuous to make such broad assessments of the buyers on various sites.

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by: Studiolines This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 23 14:27:39 2017

@Marie
A nerve just took a really sharp jab. Ebay does not seem to consider antique & vintage as an important part of their market, nor do they seem to have any consideration for the sellers of those items. Many of those sellers were given the opportunity to "grow their business" on Ebay only to be abandoned by Ebay. We have paid for stores for YEARS , we pay for PL , and other extra features, only to be purposely hidden and buried under FAKE goods that Ebay has romanced to the site (reference to high volume search given to Chinese manufacturing by Wenig) This is COMPETING with your own sellers and doing it in the most underhanded way. They act as though this part of Ebay (antique/vintage/used) is a dirty secret to be swept under the rug.

Most everything in the Ebay mission statements referring to their sellers is TOTALLY contradicted in Ebay managements actions. If you need additional point for point. Post it here and I will elaborate point for point.

They have just opened a separate Kiva platform. Yet they refuse to get the genuine antique / vintage items into there own area where they can be found amongst the repro / fraudulent and looks a like items. They even allow totally inaccurate descriptions by the sellers of this fake stuff to further bury the genuine stuff.

I do understand antique / vintage is not all they buyers are looking for. I understand they want each listing to produce as much profit as possible, they still take our money and do not give them the visibility that they dedicate to the junk.

This is not promoting Global Connectivity. Social Conscience should start on home turf. I personally am all for everyone having an opportunity to succeed regardless of nationality, religion, or lifestyle. I am against the burying of American History , Arts and our past under the pretense that we are having a Global Social Conscience while forgetting our own sellers, small family owned businesses and history.  


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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Nov 23 15:50:00 2017

@studiolines

I did not mean to hit a nerve.  But sometimes posters talk as if antique / vintage sellers are the sellers that built Ebay.  While ABSOLUTELY they were important to the beginning of Ebay, they weren't the only sellers there.  Sellers in other categories worked just as hard to build Ebay as well.  Vintage/antique sellers are not being picked on any more than sellers of other categories.  Ebay takes everyone's money.  It doesn't matter if you sell vintage, collectibles, books, electronics, fashions, etc.  

It is frustrating for all of us and we are all equally important to the beginning and the future of Ebay.



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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Nov 23 15:50:39 2017

I hope EVERYONE is and will continue to have a GREAT Holiday Season.  For those that celebrate Thanksgiving,
HAPPY THANKSGIVING !!!!!

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by: papergoy This user has validated their user name.

Fri Nov 24 08:40:21 2017

I sell second hand items (magazines, books etc) and as such, if it's not "worth" putting on eBay, I put it on Amazon. Thus 2/3 of my sales are eBay and 1/3 are Amazon, but my Amazon stuff is all low priced stuff (the free listing makes it worth doing).  So that's the breakdown in the vintage market.

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by: Studiolines This user has validated their user name.

Fri Nov 24 10:18:15 2017

Marie,

Happy Holidays to you and yours. If you haven't seen this article, it really details the problems.Hopefully Ina will do a piece on it.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2017/11/22/as-amazon-a
nd-ebay-flood-with-illegal-goods-from-china-beijing-cracks-down-on-foreign-e-commerce/2/#2f9ce5a84a23

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Fri Nov 24 12:15:38 2017

@studiolines

Thank you for the link.  It is an interesting read.  But I don't and haven't disagreed that Asian sellers are a significant issue on both Ebay and Amazon.

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by: Studiolines This user has validated their user name.

Fri Nov 24 13:16:48 2017

@Marie
Link not really directed at you per a statement or such. Sorry didn't mean it to seem that way. Just interesting read on the state of affairs regarding Ecommerce and what USA sellers are dealing with. The only interference for me personally is the repros and descriptions that bury what I sell.
Concerned in general for all sellers and wish the US would get to work on a solution before its to late.

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Sat Nov 25 08:55:20 2017

My experience (in toys) over the last couple of years is that eBay is missing that middle ground shopper that pays around retail.  The week a toy comes out, the gotta-have-it-first-at-any-price folks hit eBay.  Then for about two years after that it's bottom feeders trying to get everything for 10 cents on the dollar with free shipping.  Then suddenly toys are "rare" again and higher margin sales start to trickle in.

Honestly, if it weren't for the odd toy I get first by scalping (because the Hasbro embargo makes it impossible to get anything from them in a timely fashion) and stuff I had to sit on for 2-3 years until it was worth something, I'd be doing better at a mere handful of comic-cons than on all of the online venues I registered with (eBay, Scamazon, eCrater, Bonanza) put together.

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by: Chicago48 This user has validated their user name.

Sat Nov 25 17:33:20 2017

I don't sell on Etsy, never sold anything on that site.  I do sell on AMZ and Ebay and honestly, AMZ has higher priced items than Ebay and I don't know how their items sell as fast and as much.  For example, if you're shopping for a widget, I betcha it's higher priced on AMZ than Ebay.

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Sat Nov 25 22:01:30 2017

@Chicago48
You would not believe how many people are buying computers and smartphones that don't have the internet, just Amazon and Facebook.

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This user has validated their user name. by: toolguy

Sun Nov 26 20:39:56 2017

@RKTOYS

After being on Facebook for 7 years I canceled my account yesterday!

My 24 year old son hates Facebook and my best friend's son is 25 and he also hates Facebook.

Facebook is for old people with nothing to do or young liberals who want to argue with everyone about everything!

Today is day 15 with no marijuana!

Just got back from a 3 mile walk. . .

I'm driving the wife crazy with my:

I DON'T SMOKE
I DON'T DRINK
I DON'T DO DRUGS
I DON'T LIE, CHEAT OR STEAL
&
I DON'T DO FACEBOOK!

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Mon Nov 27 00:57:35 2017

Bravo, @toolguy!  

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Mon Nov 27 00:59:40 2017

Bruce, are your 20 items easily classified in a particular category?  

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by: Transferware Odds and Ends This user has validated their user name.

Mon Nov 27 05:57:27 2017

The sad true is, for a seller, like me on Etsy, He is right.
I have been on Etsy selling Vintage Dinnerware and other items for over 5 years., since the now CEO has come aboard, my sales are at their worst and lowest, since 2012. I find with the way Etsy promotes, (if at all) they promote for free shipping and Bargins. I get nothing but buyers looking for cheap antiques, who does that, their is no such thing as a "cheap antique". MY Prices are beyond ridiculously low, just so I can make some kind of living. I get no Sales, Just buyers looking for cheap stuff and argue with me on why my prices are higher than Ebay????, Then go to Eaby, there known by all that they are there t o sell cheap crap, just ot make money and could careless about the buyers, Etsy is the same way, or had become the "Mini Me Ebay"
Truly sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by: Chicago48 This user has validated their user name.

Mon Nov 27 05:59:14 2017

The only difference between the sites is payment, and one site is usually lower priced (Ebay) than the other (Amazon).  What I mean by payment is that Ebay allows you different ways to buy an product from auction to Best offer.  But there's a wrinkle with that because it doesn't require IMMEDIATE PAYMENT WITH AN AUCTION AND BEST OFFER.  If you check Immediate Payment you still have to wait DAYS for the payment.  It would be better if Ebay put a freeze on the bidder's Paypal account and inform them that at (3) days the amount will be charged and shipped.
This stops the retractors, this stops the lazy people who bid and then forget that they bid.

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