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Wed Nov 11 2015 09:24:51

New eBay Policy Is De Facto Fee Increase

By: Reader

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Dear Ina,
It's odd that no one has commented on this. eBay's latest "promotion" strategy is a deceitful and de facto fee increase that affects those sellers who typically use fixed price listings and receive these special promotion invitations. 

By snatching away hundreds of free listings (relists) and allowing only new listings to qualify for free insertion fees, eBay has surreptitiously and substantially raised many insertion fees each month.
 
The other day I read a suspected chlorophyll post from a poster I've never heard of complaining that he/she was seeing the same old things in search over and over again. Of course, this self described experienced shopper failed to mention that Cassini decides what eBay wants shoppers to see not necessarily what they're actually searching and shopping for.
 
This again illustrates that the bloated eBay management team still doesn't understand how their marketplace works. They seem to believe that the same people log into eBay day after day in order to justify the removal of relists from free insertion fees. 

In fact, they probably do know better but it's a convenient cover story for raising insertion fees. Increasing revenue clearly plays a far, far greater role than eBay's hypocritical and probably non existent concern for buyers seeing the same old stuff.
 
If this were actually the case, eBay would strictly enforce its duplicate listing policy against Chinese sellers who clutter up the site with hundreds of thousands of pages of junk. They would scrap Cassini and return to Ending Soonest as the default search parameter.
Reader




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by: sasikat9 This user has validated their user name.

Wed Nov 11 10:02:28 2015

Fleecebay doesn't care as witness to the millions of listings done each day.

Follow the rules or leave.

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This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Wed Nov 11 12:31:59 2015

@Reader (OP) - You have to remember that when it comes to eBay, it's all about the fees they can collect. And if they are losing as many sellers as the people who regularly comment here believe, as well as a drop in long-time buyers without an increase in new buyers, eBay has to find a way to generate more fees from the existing sellers. eBay is running out of ways to slap a fee onto a listing/sale without actually increasing insertion fees yet again. I'm sure they are well aware that sales are declining and that relists are necessary for most sellers, so what better way to grab some extra money than to disqualify relists from the promotion.

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by: pace306 This user has validated their user name.

Wed Nov 11 18:44:56 2015

AGREED - see Mr Sparrows comments, they are %100 correct.

 

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Wed Nov 11 21:56:51 2015

iheartjacksparrow reminds me that if eBay were as clever at bringing buyers to the site as they are at creating schemes to increase seller fees through questionable practices there would be no need to increase fees.  They remind me of thieves who are too lazy to work but who are not too lazy to put their efforts and energies into devising plans to rob their next victims.  

You can't constantly throw sellers under the bus and then expect those sellers to shop with you. Think about that Mr.Wenig.

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by: Scottower This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 00:26:10 2015

Simply use the SELL SIMILAR option, problem solved.  

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by: comet This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 00:54:14 2015

Yes Sell Similar works but at a cost of it's own in time and labor;  time that COULD be better spent listing NEW things for sale instead of having to constantly go over your old not-sold items and make sure ebay did not change your postage options or leave out your pictures or delete your entire listings text area.  


All of which have happened to me (the postage dealie happened to me TODAY on several accounts--and this is NOT the firt time.)  How can I compete with sellers whose postage is correct when I don't even KNOW what ebay SHOWS the potential customers?  

But yes ebay is trying desperatly to generate revenue--this is what you HAVE to do when you had to hand out $23 million bucks to "retain"  some POS CEO for a few months before he went off to rape and pillage another company.  

Gee wonder how much real programming one could DO with $23 million?  

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by: pfft!! This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 01:18:43 2015

I find it laughable how some people complain about the rules for these ''free'' listings.  
Geesh.  when you start PAYING for your own listings like many of us do I MIGHT have a little empathy for you.  Until then........get over it.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Nov 12 02:47:58 2015

Well not really.  You have to remember it is Ebay.  And with most things in Ebayland, you need to be aware enough to figure out your work arounds.

You don't have to lose any free listings unless you choose to.  And FYI, we have discussed this on this site a few times, the OP may have just missed the conversations.

A couple of things to be aware of.  When a promo says only new listings [no relists], then just make sure when you post a listing, use the Sell Similar button and NOT the relist button.  That will solve that problem.

As to the concern over the listing fee on a relist.  That issue when away a couple months ago when the Fall Sellers update kicked in.  

The OLD rule was if the item did not sell the 1st time out, you could do a relist.  If it sold the 2nd time out, you received one listing fee credit.

The new rule is when a listing sells, Ebay refunds the basic listing fee back to the seller's account.  It doesn't matter if it is the first time it was listed or the 12th.  When it sells you get the credit.  So this no longer makes the "relist" function important in any way for getting a listing fee credit.

So this is not a Fee Increase!  Just a misunderstanding.  

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by: ebay refugee camp This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 09:26:15 2015

I will agree that a lot of the search problem is Chinese sellers, however that is not the case in all categories.
Ebay is using that as a fee increase of course because of slow sales, but my issue with fees is the store fee paid monthly to ebay and very very slow sales and ebay is doing nothing. Sales are down from last year and it is bad.
Google has about 80-90 percent of search traffic and upon checking yesterday I did not see one item from ebay listed in Google shopping.
I see items from Etsy and Bonanza for some reason they are capable of getting your listings on google but ebay , huge ebay cannot.
It is about time for all ebay sellers to throw in the towel, I see absolutely no effort being made to make the needed corrections to change the site. There is no better time than NOW to fix this.
Ebay sellers should close there stores that money could be spent on advertising for another venue that actually lists your item on google.
Ebay sellers are told the ebay catalog for google is still not ready, well why not ebay? Instead ebay sellers get a steady diet of promoted listing gimmicks, no free listings and so forth, there are many small businesses on ebay, these businesses are NOT GARAGE SALES.
If enough sellers were to close their ebay store, I would bet that ebay catalog would be top priority then.
Th eebay store fees are a huge chunk of change for ebay each month.
I have been fooled I thought this new CEO was going to fix ebay, instead we have more problems, paying fees for nothing.
I urge everyone to consider closing their ebay store

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by: spooky This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 09:45:37 2015

I for one am happy to see the same relisted item now being charged a fee. In the antiques, collectibles and artwork categories it is not uncommon to see the same overly priced item listed over and over and it becomes very tedious.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: toolguy

Thu Nov 12 10:07:53 2015

@ebay refugee camp

3x rivet gun or 4x rivet gun listings from eBay show up on Google shopping page 1

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by: Henry This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 12:08:32 2015

There is a simple solution to this. Use Sell Similar. Works almost like Relist and it is just as easy. If you have multiple quantities in the original listing be sure to adjust quantity to what you currently have. eBay treats Sell Similar just like a new listing so you often get a boost in search.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Nov 12 12:56:11 2015

OK, some still feel this is a fee increase.  Explain exactly why and how a seller is being charged more for listing please.

I tried to explain in my previous post, but obviously I didn't do a good job as subsequent post still are claiming this is a fee increase.

Henry has it right.  

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by: Terry in Texas This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 13:01:40 2015

i always used a 3rd party listing tool since i started on ebay. first Auctiva but then switched to Inkfrog when Auctiva came out with all their ridiculous fee schedules.

the main reason i used a 3rd party was so i didn't have to pay an additional fee to ebay in order to launch my listing at a specific time.

so now it's super easy to ''relist'' ''new'' listings. i simply select the items in my folders in Inkfrog and launch the listings.

but based on my virtually nonexistent sales, i'm guessing ebay's robots still can't see me and my listings are somehow seen as stale.

oh well. at least i'm not spending too much time on it……..

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by: Randy This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 12 13:28:14 2015

This sort of complaint reminds me of a person on welfare b*tching because they cannot get ALL their groceries for free! Be thankful for what you DO get!

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Thu Nov 12 14:42:10 2015

@marie When using sell similar, it is my understanding that you have to change something in the title and item specifics for it to register as a 'new' listing (followed by a quick revise to your original listing). Is this correct or have I been working too hard?  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Nov 12 17:41:08 2015

@lasvagueness

Nope.  You are right You have been working too hard!!!

For your own comfort.  The next time you get invited to one of the free listing promos, test it.  You will find that you have been spending time doing something you didn't need to do.

I think you've confused the Duplicate rule with this one.

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Thu Nov 12 19:58:57 2015

@marie  Oops, I do forget to check my promos from time to time...thank you for the reminder. :-) If there is no promo though, is that the best way to get Cassini to register my stale listing as *new*?  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Nov 12 20:11:42 2015

@lasVagueness

Oh I wasn't talking about Cassini.  Nothing at all to do with the search.  The OP was talking about promotions and what they felt was a fee increase, which it isn't, they are just not looking at it correctly.

As for the search, I'm guessing, but a sell similar is considered a brand new listing, so IF Cassini takes that into consideration, then yes it would rise in the searches.

Answer this for me please.  Are we talking about GTC listings, 30 day BINs or auctions?  That can make a difference.

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Thu Nov 12 20:20:33 2015

@marie I forgot to mention that I was asking about stale listings (listings >5-6 months old).

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