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Wed Oct 28 2015 14:55:26

One-Cent Listings on eBay Are Troubling

By: Reader

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Dear Ina, 
We had recently had an item that sold for $0.00 plus shipping (reported in your EKG reports) and eBay still hasn't gotten back to me on it. 

I know you investigate a lot of things and I was trying to find the lowest selling price of items sold on eBay today. I was thinking it was higher and 1 cent but I saw some troubling things particularly from sellers from China. 

I just did a basic search in a category for items sold at $0.01 all coming from China with free shipping. This link will show you some of the listings.

I'm just curious as to why eBay condones this BS when it an obvious way to manipulate the system in some way either to gain feedback or some other devious thing. If I had time I'd look at more categories to see if similar things are going on but I would assume this is probably a common thing that's been going on for some time now.

Thanks for your time as always,
Rick




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by: sasikat9 This user has validated their user name.

Wed Oct 28 15:47:23 2015

When Chinese sellers have USPS subsidized shipping their auctions make a lot of sense to start them at one cent.

Most don't end at 1 cent but maybe a dime or so. You have to remember in third world countries pennies add up to dollars which is a lot of money for them while it is just chump change for us.

Most of the blame for that is directly from the USPS where they allow epackets from chine WITH TRACKING to be sent almost free. Latest figures the post office released was that those epackets cost the USPS a dollar ten cent each to deliver. Who do you think is paying that 1.10.

Check out the new postal rates that they want to put into effect in January.

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This user has validated their user name. by: askalice59

Wed Oct 28 15:56:52 2015

As a seller in the USA and reading some of the comments in EKG about what appear to be browser hijacks and redirects to German and Dutch sites, I was beginning to wonder if the China sellers are not at the bottom of this. Make it look like eBay somewhere in Europe is at fault.

They are hungry in China and therefore greedy over there. I think they are displacing US sellers with as many disruptive scams as they can. One is redirecting your links in Google to their websites.

The worst thing that happens to any of us is in the eBay search. My search results ALWAYS come up ZERO -0- for the items I am looking for but then below that are other items I did not search for mixed with items the search said it didn't have. WTF? I have noticed that my items will come up on top of the search if I price them higher than everyone else's. I bet buyers are thrilled to find this out.

So yes, the Chinese are scammers and eBay is endorsing it. This needs to be brought to the attention of elected officials who blabber on about fair trade. Legal action should be brought against them.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Wed Oct 28 19:10:54 2015

@sasikat9

Very well said.  Personally I think it should be illegal to give a foreign country cheaper shipping rates that you offer to your own country.  

It breeds unfair trading practices between the countries involved and just should not be allowed.

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by: JQ This user has validated their user name.

Wed Oct 28 19:36:31 2015

I noticed those items that sold for one cent were all auctions. I refined the search for only "buy it now" and the least expensive items with free shipping were at 75 cents. I think it it possible to send a 2 oz package domestically for less than 75 cents, but I cannot imagine any US based seller willing to process orders for products that are designed to net them only ten cents or less.

I do understand that the whole e-packet insanity will be less of a problem starting next year. The USPS renegotiated rates with China and some other Asian nations and rates will be at least a bit higher starting next year.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Wed Oct 28 19:44:44 2015

@JQ

I believe 2 Oz in a small letter size or legal size envelope [such as you might use in mailing in a bill payment] is 71 cents postage.  So at 75 cents, you would not even break even.  

.71 Postage
.30 PP per transaction fee
.02 PP fee
.07 Ebay Fee
$1.10  Total

No room for product costs, your labor,shipping supplies, etc.    A US seller just couldn't do this unless they are into paying people to buy from them.

I'm with you.  I don't understand all the ins and outs of these rates, but I do know how much it damages US sellers as it greatly affects me and my ability to sell certain items.

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by: maxmad This user has validated their user name.

Wed Oct 28 20:26:42 2015

yes, I truly can't believe how our governments still subsidize shipping from china, they have become the second largest economy in the world,


I can't even turn on the lights, for what they can make, sell and ship product for.

We are slowly but surely becoming a third world country,


 

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This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Wed Oct 28 21:24:12 2015

@Marie - I've known of a few sellers who would intentionally lose money in order to build up their feedback (and presumably buyer confidence).  

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This user has validated their user name. by: toolguy

Wed Oct 28 21:43:37 2015

The real truth might be even more troubling!

Does eBay "PAY" chinese sellers to list and sell?

Does Paypal "PAY" chinese sellers to accept Paypal as payment?

Does the US Post Office "PAY" chinese sellers to ship to the US?

Maybe those .01 auctions with free shipping are profitable to chinese sellers!

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This user has validated their user name. by: bitbybit

Wed Oct 28 23:36:14 2015

This headlined just yesterday in the news:

"BEIJING — A state-run Chinese newspaper has claimed the country is "not afraid to fight a war" with the U.S."

Maybe not a physical war but it certainly seems China is destroying the US economically. All with the blessings of our government along with corporations and, of course, ebay, following suit.

In the meantime 100 CEOs have their retirements all secure with 4.9 billion ready and set. Anyone check to see if JD was one of them?

 

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This user has validated their user name. by: toolguy

Thu Oct 29 00:00:05 2015

@ bitbybit

Bilderberg member Jeff Bezos is probably behind a lot of the chinese trade to America.

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by: thebobman This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 00:15:46 2015

>Most of the blame for that is directly from the USPS where they allow epackets from chine WITH TRACKING to be sent almost free. Latest figures the post office released was that those epackets cost the USPS a dollar ten cent each to deliver. Who do you think is paying that 1.10.


I was just saying that somewhere else. They raise our rates, make somethings not worth selling from over here anymore, and then more come from China and having free delivery.

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by: CaddyShack This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 00:23:19 2015

We had a company owner here in Virginia who could not figure this out either, so he went to china. The owner stated that he could not buy raw material for what the China company wanted to sell him a finished product for. They were making knock offs he stated they told him to get rid of his employees and buy from them. He said he had 700 employees working for him and he could not do that. My hats off to him at least he was looking after the people who helped him build his business.

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by: Joey4711 This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 00:37:50 2015

I wouldn't say that "China is destroying the economy..." Great corporations and our government is destroying our economy and the middle class by letting jobs go overseas, allowing subsidized mail to help businesses keep jobs overseas etc.

That is really the issue, remember the post office had Ebay on the board to decide postal packet rates, give me a break.  We lose money everytime the Chinese ship with our tax dollars so businesses here can be richer than rich.  It is a great system just ask the rich.

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by: Bloggo This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 02:27:44 2015

The USPS is paid only 94 cents on average for each piece of Chinese ePacket mail.  The Postal Service loses about a dollar on each incoming item.  You can thank our Elected Officials in D.C. They're always looking out for our well being.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Oct 29 02:40:11 2015

@jack

I have too and there have been some sellers I recommended doing that for reasons you stated.  However, they can't do it as a steady diet IF their goal is to make money.  

@toolguy

That is too paranoid for me.  

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by: austauctions This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 03:28:17 2015

Hi, I am new to these blogs.
I think that perhaps the Chinese are effectively buying email addresses so that they can create a database

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Thu Oct 29 03:30:49 2015

@austauctions

For what purpose?

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by: Tiffee Jasso This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 03:58:46 2015

The USPS does not get but one penny per packet for each packet they deliver. The loss is in the hundred million dollar range.
I have contacted my Congressman, who by the way has an ongoing investigation into the USPS and its dealings with China.
I have asked him to stop the raises for Americans in January, until all foreign governments pay the same rate as Americans pay for postage delivery is charged to all other countries.
I also complained that the Post Office should not be allowed to hide rates, claiming they are a security issue.
Now, the rest of you get a hold of your Congressman or Congresswoman and ask the same. If we get enough legislators looking at the situation and asking questions, we could get the playing field leveled.
Americans should not have to subsidize any other country's mail coming through this country. Also the US should be doing what the EU and Canada have done and that is tax the package.  

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by: maxmad This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 06:20:02 2015

I have been a manufacturer all my life, this is not new,

People have to realize that your not dealing with an individual, your up against the Chinese Communist Corporation, like a Wal-Mart x 10000 on steroids.

You cannot compete, if they want your product, there is Nothing you can do.

Container ships, and China Airlines, are getting larger everyday, the long distance is not an issue anymore.

It should have been stopped, or at less regulated 20 years ago, no one listened back then and no one is listening today,

it's already too late, just look around you, and see what you own or what others own from china, then see what products are still made here.  

Also remember you cannot own 1 square inch of any land in china, yet we allow them to purchase our land, god help our children's future.

Low prices are a way the Chinese Corporation puts you out of business, very common tactic, works well.

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by: Chicago48 This user has validated their user name.

Thu Oct 29 06:40:22 2015

That link  http://www.ebay.com/sch/Outdoor-Sports-/159043/i.html?_sop=15&LH
_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_ipg=200&rt=nc
Seems
to be a duplication of the same listing.  Notice that all lanyards have 1 bid, they all start at the same time and they seem to be in the same location.
I think that's a glitch with EB, maybe the servers are not working?  Because no one would list just ONE of the same product.  They would list it as multiple quantity.
Also "the item was sold."  I wouldn't trust this listing.  Unless someone bought several or multiple lanyards the company wouldn't ship just ONE .

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