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Sat Feb 20 2021 09:03:02

Strange Reoccurring eBay Phenomenon - What Are the Odds?

By: Reader

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Dear Ina,
I love your site and always look forward to getting my emails.

This email to you may be trivial, but I just had to share something strange occurring on my eBay...

I sell clothing mostly and have been for nearly 20 years. I love it and have had maybe a handful of issues in all these years.

Two years ago, I decided that, rather than listing each item separately, I started making lots and found that buyers love the lots, and I have sold many.

Here is the strangest thing happening with one particular lot, consisting of 3 brand new with tags, knit tops.

First time I listed them, they sold but the buyer never paid. I let the NPB (non-paying bidder claim) run its course and relisted them.

Sold them again, and again - buyer didn't pay.

Relisted for a third time, and again, the buyer didn't pay.

I sat on them for a few months and decided to try again. This now makes the fourth time listing them, selling them and buyer never paying.

The odds???

All 4 buyers are in completely different states, different names and all had hundreds of feedback.

I'm now wondering if you have ever encountered another seller who has experienced this phenomenon?

I've decided never to list this lot again.... Strange!!

Thank you for reading this, stay safe,
Linda

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Sun Feb 21 02:25:10 2021

That is very strange.  It is like there is a curse or something on that particular lot of clothing.

I would suggest figuring out what kind of fixed price you are willing to take for the lot.  Post that listing with Immediate Payment Required and then the buyer has to pay or they can't purchase the clothing.

I hope everything works out for you.

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by: COVID-19 This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 21 07:20:20 2021

Try Poshmark instead of eBay!  All offers on Poshmark are binding because buyers have to give up their PayPal info BEFORE they can even send offers.

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by: geministuff28 This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 21 07:51:21 2021

Thank you Marie..
I thought the same thing...

This lot must be cursed...

I first started it at 12, then after the 2nd time, knocked it down to 10
Then this last time I knocked it down to 8...

I've been suggested to try POSHMARK but thought that site was just for designer clothes.
Plus, I work from a desktop, which limits me as well..
But I did recently get a new smart phone, so I may look into it a little further...
As soon as I can figure out the phone...

I won't be relisting this lot again, that's for sure...

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by: thriftyone This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 21 10:36:55 2021

you can do Poshmark from a desktop; that is how I use it. All types of clothing sell there, as well as shoes, accessories, home goods, toys and bath and beauty supplies. Also, if you have lots of listings utilize 3rd party software to transfer your Ebay listings to there as well as other platforms. You may be quite surprised by the extra sales you will get.

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by: zeek6228 This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 21 22:32:56 2021

This is only a fluke, like a coin coming up heads 5 times in a row.

Just list normally. Make sure you have ebay preferences set to "buyer must have paypal account" and "block bidders with 2 unpaid item strikes in the last month"

Then just file unpaid item claim after 2 days and close it after 4 days and relist again.  

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by: TDAKS This user has validated their user name.
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Mon Feb 22 01:09:27 2021

Many many years ago while the wife and I were in bricks and mortar and
hadn't ventured into ebay one of our customers was almost bragging about something I will always remember.
She was part of a geographically diverse group that would systematically target sellers that for some reason one of the group had umbrage with.
As I didn't know ebay from my elbow it never occurred to me to call her out as a piece of trash. I have no reason to believe that this practice is not still in existence.  

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by: Chicago48 This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 22 04:34:23 2021

OP can create a Mystery Box on Poshmark and sell in lots.

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 22 13:47:13 2021

The ‘odds’ of running into multiple instances of NPB are a LOT higher than they were at about the same time eBay decided that such ‘buyers’ (count of) were so desperately needed, they would face no consequences for it, FB or otherwise. Steadily increasing over the past decade or so, too.

In fact, eBay encourages such behavior by showing the buyer all the deals they ‘missed’ if they consummate the transaction with the original seller instead. Sure, there’s a ‘report’ button (placebo) available. And sure, you can ‘block’ those with any ‘history’ of such - if they have one. Although it doesn’t take much whining by that buyer to eBay to have such ‘history’ altered, and it doesn’t take a genius to figure out a new ID gets around such block. Despite that being a policy violation it’s not much enforced, and though easily preventable by eBay, they don’t.

eBay could also invoke some kind of buyer vetting, and ‘deposit’ process to hold buyers responsible for their choices, like it also says in their unenforced policy covering ‘following through’, but per their perspective, such might ‘alienate’ buyers.

Although they have yet to respond to the fact that a buyer who doesn’t pay, is not a buyer anybody wants because what’s the point?

Oh yeah, eBay inflated metrics they can brag to the street, almost forgot.

Nothing supernatural or strange here though. The documented 10-fold increase in NPB is engineered for purpose. Just not for sellers. And these days, it’s practically a coin flip with every listing, no matter what it’s makeup or history.

So if you like a rigged game, step right up. Place your bets.

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by: christy s This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 22 15:53:07 2021

I've had this happen once.. and it was because an old paypal email address from years ago was attached to the listing.  I didn't put it there.. and it was a new listing.  Ebay just prefilled it in from somewhere, who knows how!  I didn't figure it out until the second buyer didn't pay.  They had paid but went to an old account so I couldn't access it or see it.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Mon Feb 22 19:49:47 2021

@Linda: I also thought that Poshmark was only for high-end, designer (read expensive) apparel items (after all, posh equates to luxurious). Then one day I was searching for a particular Loungefly backpack, and one of the links was to Poshmark. So it couldn't hurt to list your merchandise there.  



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