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Mon May 14 2018 10:45:43

Seller Calls for eBay to Open Second Track

By: Reader

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Dear Ina,
My proposal, not that it's likely to get interest from eBay, would be for them to have two tracks or channels. Now that they want to go to a catalog format for current, manufactured-type goods, it would be terrific to have a separate format for people selling antiques and collectibles. 

That would provide sellers of antiques and collectibles with a venue that would be similar to the eBay they knew when the site first got started. It was an exciting time. 

It's very cumbersome for sellers of unique pieces with a history and collector value to have to find comfort in the site that now caters to large sellers of commodity items. It might even serve to attract some sellers back to the site.
CarolR

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This user has validated their user name. by: The End

Mon May 14 11:03:13 2018

That's what I've been saying for years.
It would be nice to have our own Ebay for antiques and collectibles...with both Auctions and Buy It Now.
It's LONG over due.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Mon May 14 11:11:55 2018

eBay does not listen to their customers. End of story.

Sad eh?  But reality.

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by: FeelingFroggy This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 14 11:37:42 2018

So we don't sell dusty collectibles or old stuff. How about a track for seconds, or maybe thirds or just used stuff or mayber doesn't work junk.

When you start thinking that you need to be seperate from the main stream guys it ain't going to happen because everyone thinks that they should be seperate from everything else.

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by: Silver Ice King This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 14 12:11:22 2018

Ebay will never do this as they would be afraid that the Collectible site would outperform the catalog site and make them look bad once again.  The executives at Ebay starting with Donohoe did not want to be known as the worlds largest flea market or garage sale which is why they started this conversion in the first place.  Its all about their Egos and having to tell colleagues who work at what they consider prestigious companies that they work at Ebay and get laughed at.  Surprise, now they are laughed at more than ever for ruining a well performing company.

Why would they ever admit that they were wrong and branch off the sector that has basically kept them afloat all these years and watch it grow while their ideas flounder??  Never going to happen under Wenig.  

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by: Michael in BC This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 14 12:14:18 2018

Quite a few threads in the past, supporting a division of what's offered for sale.  What we need is "eBay Classic", and yes, it would bring back countless sellers, and an incalculable number of buyers.

It's been a long time since eBay called itself "The World's Largest Flea Market".  The site has regressed to where it wants buyers to know exactly what they want, to enter a UPC code in the "search box", and let AI "personally select" what it deems is their best choice.

In 'days of old', while many buyers did know what they wanted, likely just as many would discover things in search and then want them .........and both types of buyer would buy.

Way back I was doing $7K to $10K  a month on eBay, with a 95+% sell through .....all on collectable items. Been a long time, and I still miss it.

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This user has validated their user name. by: toolguy

Mon May 14 13:24:36 2018

@Micheal in BC

The sad fact is people aren't buying collectibles like they were in the 90's

And with way more sellers and way less buyers everyone wants to blame eBay.

eBay is not to blame, it's YOUR merchandise!

No one wants to hear that but it's true!

When I 1st came to eBay the fruit was ripe for picking.

I could sell $5000 a week no problem because I only had a 100 competitors, today I can barely make $1000 a week in sales. That's because their about the same amount of buyers but now I have over 2000 competitors.

It's all about supply & demand, always has been always will be.

Think of eBay as the Gold Rush, it was great in the beginning with more buyers then sellers, then too many miners (sellers) came on the site.

Hot items still sell great on eBay, it's just not easy money like the old days.

Adapt, change or get left behind.

You want to make money on eBay? Start selling gun parts! They're RED HOT right now. . .

PS: I was an avid collector of Budweiser beer steins, eBay was the greatest thing since sliced bread when I joined in Jan. 1998 I haven't bought a stein in 15 years!

I also collect Jefferson nickels, I finished the collection and haven't bought a nickel in over 10 years.

People just aren't collecting these days in hard times. . .

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Mon May 14 14:58:55 2018

I'm no fan of the catalog format either.  But with that said it is a long time coming that Ebay will have OOAK items in the catalog.  Even Ebay has said that.  They have also said that they haven't even yet figured out HOW they could do that.  So if it is to come around and get us, it will be quite a while before it happens if ever.

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by: Grady This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 14 18:15:56 2018

I find that Toolguy is correct regarding the market and how things have changed. You will still sell old goodies, but the golden era is gone. Combine that with a site that doesn't work, and you tend to sit on inventory a lot longer. The supply is huge, and the number of people who want to hoard old stuff is dwindling. With 2 and 3 families sharing a home now, there is no extra room for a lot of these people and I expect it to get worse. There are a ton of yard sales, estate sales, and eviction piles at the curbs here and elsewhere.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Mon May 14 22:28:26 2018

That's a little myopic.  When eBay started, every buyer was a potential seller, and it was very much a peer to peer operation.  It was a few years before they started to divide buyers and sellers.  Remember when PayPal became mandatory?  That cleared out many casual sellers.  Every policy change, every rearranged format, every fee hike, every VERO railroading, they drive out sellers and many former sellers become former buyers.  This so-called surplus, it's a lie to shift blame away from what they've done.  I can and do make more sales over a weekend at a convention than over a quarter on eBay.  That tells me there are, in fact, buyers for my merchandise.  They just aren't on these (mis)managed venues.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Tue May 15 06:26:18 2018

Silver Ice King nailed it.  Meg and John were embarrassed to be connected with a "flea market".  They both loved the money but were above the appearance that they were leading a flea market.

Egos destroy companies........and democracies.  Just like a hand full of world "leaders" cause most of the havoc in the world so have the "leaders" at eBay.

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by: Silver Ice King This user has validated their user name.

Tue May 15 06:53:44 2018

@Rexford

I wish I was wrong, I really do, but all you have to do is watch the growth on Etsy that Ebay keeps handing them because they don't want that business.  Wenigs ego is so huge now as he feels he has to prove they were wrong to fire him at Reuters when the company underperformed under his direction.  What he does not realize is that Ebay is doing the same thing with this Disruptive Technology scheme he has come up with.

It didn't help that GM added another useless body to their BOD as he feels that is the ultimate compliment to his accomplishments and success, where most others just view it as another useless executive added to a BOD because they are required to have one and fewer and fewer truly successful Executives are accepting those positions unless they are retired and bored, because they see just how worthless the job title is.  

I know we all say at least he is the devil we know so let him stick around, but personally I am ready to try another stab at the position because i just do not see how Ebay can do any worse than the worthless CEO they have at this point in time.  A used car salesman has more scruples and morals than Wenig does, which is why the entire organization has taken to lying, they are just following the bosses lead.

Now that he has realized that the Sellers are to smart to fall for his stupid plans anymore, it is now becoming mandatory if you want to sell on Ebay.  That may just be the final nail in his coffin because if Ebay tanks in any quarter after one of his ''My Way or the Highway'' fiasco;s I don't think the BOD will have any choice but to can the worthless CEO and his Disruptive Technology.

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This user has validated their user name. by: maxheadroom
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Tue May 15 08:06:17 2018

@Toolguy. Selling gunparts on ebay is not the way to go. I was a seller of vintage gunparts on ebay as well as gun shows since the late 1980s and ebay makes it hard to sell. i had so many legal auctions cancelled by ebay so it gets fustrating. I had auctions for bolt action rifle parts like carcano,arisaka, veterli, 45-70 springfield cancelled with their  reson being ASSUALT rifle parts which they are not. I spent a saturday listing dozens of arisaka t99 rifle barrels that ebay ended in an hour claiming they were illegal and highly regulated. Ebay is that abusive partner you dont want to deal with.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: maxheadroom

Tue May 15 08:07:18 2018

I ment gunshows since the 1980s, ebay i started on 2001.

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Tue May 15 10:51:43 2018

''eBay is not to blame, it's YOUR merchandise!
No one wants to hear that but it's true!''

Cite your source.  If you bothered to consult any before netblasting your own version.

Here's something from of one of mine.

''Online Antiques & Collectibles Sales - US Market Research Report

Date Published: January 2018

Vintage finds: Rising income and consumer spending will drive demand for industry products

The Online Antiques and Collectibles Sales industry has continued to flourish over the past five years, largely due to the growing ubiquity of online shopping. Antiques and collectibles are timeless yet discretionary items, making this industry highly sensitive to changes in disposable income. Industry retailers of these items have benefited from the wider trend of e-commerce growth, with consumers increasingly turning to online retailers to make their purchases. The growth of this relatively new industry has coincided with the increasing prevalence of internet access, particularly broadband...''

- IBIS World

They also report a $2b revenue growth projection for 2018, along with a 7.2% annual average growth between 2013 - 2018.  

Despite those who would seek to excuse eBay from what is, and has been proven to be, their complete decimation in the literal sense of what was once was it's own unbreachable niche, the fact is, it's NOT 'the economy....'must refrain....to blame.  That growth s larger than their whole GMV over the same period too.  Chew on that fact a bit.

Now clearly there are elements in demographic change at play.  There always have been in this market.  That accounts for some of the natural attrition some experience.  And yes, there is more quantity in given sub niches, at least more that are more easily visible.  Well, ALMOST everywhere.  Kinda part of the point here, that.

Meanwhile, it's all too easy to conveniently forget, no?, that what eBay did to themselves in this channel started long before any crash their corporatocracy coincidentally contributed to.  It was called ''Store to Core.''  

The core being their auction resale foundation.  The store being their early toe dip into retail, floundering as a standalone channel because, duh, that wasn't eBay's strength.

Long story short, and countless 'disruptions' later (not even counting any glitchovations yet), one now has to wade through 43,000 'vintage' designed plastic knockoff widgets for every genuine article manufactured decades before the ISBNification of everything unorganic.

Finally, consder this.  Your parents are passing, boomers.  Sincere condolences.  

But there's a lot of you, and when life can go on, a lot of parent's attics.  Means a lot more good stuff out there, if only proportionately speaking.  

Nothing wrong with the market. though of course, it is now more competitive.  And yes, even the article cited acknowledges economic impacts, because there always will be.  Though most of those yet to fully see current 'benefit' were not previous regular patrons either.  The market will persevere.

Except on eBay.  They've corrupted their core.

THAT is what no one, especially at eBay, wants to ''hear''.



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by: pace306 This user has validated their user name.

Tue May 15 10:56:00 2018

While it is true that todays younger people prefer to collect Nintendo Switch games and Bayblade tops - MOST of the blame (as everyone here has said) lies SQUARELY at the feet of the people who destroyed the venue - eBay.

Every site has to have sane polices that protect buyers ANS sellers, but when you go out of your way to hurt the very sellers you claim your site is all about (Cupcakes claim that sellers are the focus of eBay in 2018 etc) you will get no where.

eBay simply feels that there is an inexhaustible supply of sellers and therefore they can run roughshod over them and impose ANY terms they want. And if they dont like it and want to leave "then ok its too bad".

Im not sure that theres a business school (wharton, harvard etc) that teaches that philosophy!

Sellers hurt by eBay simply go to Amazon, Walmart, Etsy "in revenge" and dont look back. They also tell everyone they know to NEVER deal with eBay.

The sad part is that all this is common sence - something the head honchos SHOULD already know.

It DOESNT mean that sellers get to do as they please, they can be vetted and the top rated seal could be/should used for that - not stupid returns.

eBay cab have 10 tracks - doesnt matter until eBay management changes its view on sellers.

 

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This user has validated their user name. by: FidoMaster
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Tue May 15 13:07:00 2018

This is simply never going to happen, at least with the clowns at the helm now.

eBay's tech is plain ricketey-*** unreliable glitchy garbage.

eBay's "talent" pool is severely mis-matched to the  demands of the organization.

eBay's business processes are as sophisticated as a redneck's drunken duct-tape broken exhaust on his 4-wheeler.

Even the eBay brand kinda sucks these days.

The only thing of value they have is TRAFFIC and that they have in spades.

They're not going to fragment that traffic.  Wenig has sugar-drop fairytale promoted listings dreams of enticing buyers with all sorts of crap they didn't know they needed.

Remember that silly eBay "10-dollar" store or "Under 10" or whatever it was called?  It wasn't it's own "store" at all.  All it was was a landing page with filters in-place sitting on top of regular-old eBay.

Just another silly Wenig gimmick.

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by: lamplady This user has validated their user name.

Wed May 16 20:21:48 2018

I pretty much gave up on eBay about ten years ago after selling there for almost eleven years.It is my business, not theirs.  I sell now on Ruby Lane and do O.K. there and it is a vetted site. It takes awhile to form a following as people have to find these smaller venues but it is worthwhile and so much less stressful. Also, if you really work at it, your cost to profit ratio can be considerably lower than eBay and they have a chart you can access at anytime to show it. I gave up that eBay would ever separate or sell the antique/collectible part long ago.

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by: Paul W This user has validated their user name.

Thu May 17 02:10:46 2018

I have an anchor store on eBay selling collectibles.  A large part is military collectibles and the market for them is as strong as ever.
If you're selling Hummels and other dust collectors, you're pretty much out of luck.

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by: alaska This user has validated their user name.

Thu May 17 02:15:54 2018

I begged Meg Whitman for this more than once. It's needed now more than ever. It will never happen.

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Thu May 17 02:20:35 2018

I second eBay Classic.  

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