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Thu Jan 11 2024 12:55:45

Victim Impact Statement in United States of America vs eBay Inc.

By: Ina and David Steiner

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We are Ina and David Steiner, the victims in United States of America vs. eBay Inc. filed today in federal court in the District of Massachusetts related to what has become known as the 2019 eBay cyberstalking case. 

Under a Deferred Prosecution Agreement (DPA), eBay has admitted to a set of facts that the government says proves six felony charges, and eBay will pay a $3 million fine. 

An independent overseer will monitor eBay for the next three years to ensure it complies with the agreement. If the company violates the DPA, the Department of Justice will move forward with the 6-count prosecution: Stalking through interstate travel (2 counts); Stalking through electronic communications services (2 counts); Witness tampering; and Obstruction of justice.

As criminal prosecutions in the stalking case played out against eBay's former employees, we have stood before three different judges at 6 separate sentencing hearings and described in detail the impact of the stalking, conspiracy, and obstruction crimes as part of our victim impact statements, with one more hearing for a 7th defendant yet to be scheduled. 

With today's Deferred Prosecution Agreement, eBay is not required to stand before a judge for sentencing, but we feel it's important that we, as victims, be heard.

In 2022, we were crushed when we learned the government had not interviewed the top executives at eBay as part of its criminal investigation. As victims of despicable crimes meant to destroy our lives and our livelihood, we felt it was vital to do everything in our power to make sure such a thing never happened to anyone else. eBay's actions against us had a damaging and permanent impact on us - emotionally, psychologically, physically, reputationally, and financially - and we strongly pushed federal prosecutors for further indictments to deter corporate executives and board members from creating a culture where stalking and harassment is tolerated or encouraged.

We launched our news site in 1999 to help regular people and small businesses succeed in selling online - when sellers succeed, so do the platforms on which they sell. We were targeted because we gave eBay sellers a voice and because we reported facts that top executives didn't like publicly laid bare.

Since the government first arrested some of the perpetrators and filed charges in June 2020, we have heard from sellers who are fearful of communicating legitimate concerns to us (or to eBay and other marketplaces) because they fear retaliation. Not only is that devastating to hear, but when sellers are afraid to speak up, it undermines our reporting.

After today's announcement, we remain determined to push for answers and do whatever we possibly can to ensure that no corporation ever feels that the option exists for them to squash a person's First Amendment rights.

It's that important. 

In sentencing one of the former eBay employees in 2022, Judge William G. Young, with nearly four decades on the federal bench, told the defendant, "This is one of the most important cases upon which this Court has ever sat. This out-of-control group of which you were a central part is, if not stopped now and stopped completely, an extraordinary danger to our country. Make no doubt about it, the skills that you employed to go cyberstalking are an extreme danger, and when you put those skills to service of some large corporate entity with economic power to go after individuals and squash down their speech, we are all at risk. All of us."

In the interest of disclosure, we and Steiner Associates, LLC, the publisher of EcommerceBytes, filed a civil lawsuit against eBay and its former employees, with a trial date scheduled for March 3, 2025.



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by: Shanna This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 13:07:55 2024

Hard evidence pointed right to the top of eBay in this case, so why was Devin Wenig never questioned by law enforcement? Because the US has a 2 tiered justice system, one for regular people, and one for the elites. The Elites are never held to the same standard.

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by: Tinysaur This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 13:54:34 2024

So, the DOJ collected $3M, but you have to sue them yourselves for damages?  

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by: Alfacar This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 14:02:33 2024

Thanks Steiners for standing up and thanks to law enforcement and Justice for persuing it. Hopefully, Ebay will be deterred and overseeing agency will be impartial and not related in any way and shape to Ebay

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by: quirkyantiques This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 14:08:16 2024

Thank you both for fighting the good fight here-I hope you are compensated at the end of this nightmare!

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by: None Such This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 14:21:35 2024

I'm not a fan of DPAs, plea agreements, or other get out of jail free cards.  Do the crime?  Then do the time.  There for certain would be less bad corporate behavior if employees from the C suite on down knew they would do time, and not in Club Fed but in a real prison.    

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by: steveylang This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 14:39:41 2024

Thank you for standing up to EBay, and standing up for us sellers worldwide! Best wishes on a successful civil suit, you guys certainly deserve it.

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by: CrookedRiver This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 15:53:15 2024

It is disgraceful that the DOJ let the top officers of EBay escape any serious investigation. I hope your US Senators and Representative in Congress will grill the DOJ and find out how this miscarriage of justice occurred. Joshua Levy claims the DOJ "left no stone unturned". That is not credible, and Levy needs to be held accountable for this implausible statement.

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by: Momcat55 This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 15:53:57 2024

Appreciation to the two of you for standing up to this huge company to take back your lives.

I only hope your civil suit will inflict even more damage to them.

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by: Small Guy This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 16:04:35 2024

Too had our legal system makes the Steiners wait a year and half to get a trial for a civil suit to be compensated for the horrible damages.  By then, I fear that Ebay will be gone and the assets plundered. .  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Working It

Thu Jan 11 16:08:19 2024

I am still flustered and angry that the DOJ did not go after the C-Suite and Board for these issues that they at least tolerated, and more likely directed to happen to the Steiners.
The Deferred Prosecution Agreement does not serve justice. It only makes the Prosecution job easier. They should have been hit with all of the charges, PLUS the monitoring.
Their actions over a year is something I can't even imagine, and, quite honestly, don't know how it wouldn't have crushed me to bits. I'm very happy that the Steiners are tougher than me. I hope that they know that they have the support of many of us who rarely comment, and the many who do.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Thu Jan 11 16:20:25 2024

Thank you both for standing up to the eBay lowlifes. You always have the best information for all online sellers. If the government is getting $3M from eBay, then I hope you are awarded at least triple that (and open your own marketplace for all the eBay and Etsy haters!).

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This user has validated their user name. by: Jefft

Thu Jan 11 16:34:08 2024

Hi Ina,

I'm the ex-eBay seller that posted ''Top eBay Seller Calls it Quits'' in 2012. I'm pleased to see that you've pulled back the curtain on these evil people. I've suspected for 15 years that they attacked me in many ways. Both my business and personally. I hope you get financial justice now. I'm confident you will. I'm waiting for the day eBay is renamed ''Ina's eBay Marketplace''. You're gonna own them! Congrats!!!

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by: pace306 This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 19:14:33 2024

Theres alot to unpack here

1) Im glad this is coming to an end, and that maybe with this verdict/judgement - finally Ina and David can try and put it behind them.

2) I still dont know why eBay thought that they were some kind of threat - You could post any anti-eBay stuff you want on Youtube etc and no one would really care - I guess the answer is that ecommercebytes is more powerful then anyone ever thought!

3) as stated by MANY here - certain eBay brass got away with pining it on lower people, and got off scott free. True justice is hauling him/them back into court and put THEM out of business.

4) eBay hasnt admitted guilt (not that I can see anyway) and the $3 million is pocket change for the San Jose Mafia - its not really enough. "With today's Deferred Prosecution Agreement, eBay is not required to stand before a judge for sentencing".

5) the monitor - court appointed or not - wont do a thing - its useless, its just "feel good crap"

6) "Since the government first arrested some of the perpetrators and filed charges in June 2020, we have heard from sellers who are fearful of communicating legitimate concerns" - personally - Im not - let eBay TRY to come and get me. SOME people are military and dont take kindly to the San Jose Mafia

7) "This out-of-control group of which you were a central part is, if not stopped now and stopped completely, an extraordinary danger to our country. Make no doubt about it, the skills that you employed to go cyberstalking are an extreme danger, and when you put those skills to service of some large corporate entity with economic power to go after individuals and squash down their speech, we are all at risk. All of us." - EXCEPT that eBay does this on a micro level 100000000x a day with not a care in the world aka they dont care what the judge says.

8) The most important thing here is the Steiners well being and how they will deal with the fallout over time. Regardless of what I or anyone else says - they dd nothing wrong and didnt deserve to be treated as they were - the $3 million ISNT the pint here (however it does make things get better for them even if just by abit)

NONE of this was necessary, none of this was warranted, and as people who pay for the services eBay provides - they have/had the right to condemn behavior that impacts them - not enough people were punished.

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by: kazaly This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 19:24:19 2024

You both deserve our sincere congratulations upon reaching this milestone in your long journey to expose eBay's onerous corporate culture of repression and punishment of dissent; many would not have had the fortitude to stick it out.
Hopefully, your civil case may have the opportunity to go where the criminal prosecution feared to tread.
It should have been blindingly obvious to investigators that the perpetrators were not acting without the specific remit, and likely direction, of senior management and I for one hope your legal team pursues this aspect of the case.
Not only would a successful civil case highlighting this aspect accrue massive damages, it would also go a long way toward supporting the suspicion many sellers have, that eBay's corporate culture is so rotten that any observable dissent from sellers is met with punishment through restriction of visibility/sales.
Senior management at eBay have turned the site into something of a Ponzi scheme where new sellers are given a sniff then seen their share passed on to newer ones and I sincerely doubt that the DOJ's ethical monitoring will ever bother with dissecting the nuts and bolts of eBay's business methodologies.
After all, when you can't grow the pie, you have to slice it differently.
Give 'em hell guys!

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This user has validated their user name. by: toolguy

Thu Jan 11 20:03:11 2024

The DPA and the $3 million dollar fine make David & Ina's civil case a slam dunk.

10x the fine or $30 million sounds about right


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by: Babs This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 20:04:30 2024

Congratul;ations on the DOJ case ruling and I can only imagine the 2025 case will follow with a verdict that Ebay deserves! I remember when this was happening and how insane to think a big company like Ebay could be guilty of some horrific attrocities! Glad to hear today's ruling!

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by: railady This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 20:36:24 2024

I am so VERY glad to hear this case is going in the right direction. I could not agree more with the quotes attributed to the judge.  Ina and David, you've been nothing but helpful here for me, providing a way for me to view the true nature of eCommerce companies. I truly hope you will be able to put this behind you but I VERY truly hope monetary awards will at least somewhat take the edge off of what you have had to go through.  It's not over 'til it's over but I think the end is coming into sight.  Your civil case should go well after this verdict.  Bless you both.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Bill

Thu Jan 11 23:55:39 2024

Ina and David,
Been a member hear since soon after I started selling on eBay in 1999.
I remember having a nice talk with Ina at eBay 2006 Live at Mandalay Bay and it was a very pleasant experience.
I hope this all comes out well for both of you.
I still sell on eBay but not any where near as much as I used to since they are being run by a bunch of idiots and have been destroying what once was a very lucrative marketplace.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Fri Jan 12 00:13:10 2024

Furious that eBay's top brass got off scott free. There really are two sets of justice in this country.

I have the greatest respect for the Steiners.

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Fri Jan 12 03:15:58 2024

eBay’s criminal behavior in this case was no less than an attempt to suppress rights chiseled into the very 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution.  And it should not take the kind of courage and fortitude the Steiners exhibited to endure the terror and attempts of intimidation from eBay and it’s C-Suite full of arrogant amateur pirates just to offer a platform of truth and revelation under that umbrella.

It is nothing less than disgusting that it did though, and may God bless David and Ina for it with a more just compensation than it appears the ‘justice system’ appointed by representatives that are supposed to represent the will of We The People, have applied to the corporation that endorsed the commission of the described atrocities.

For those who nevertheless continue to endorse and tacitly ‘approve’ of eBay as being a fine place with which to do business, a question.  Given the ‘punishment’ applied which amounts to barely 15% of the perpetrator-in-chief’s golden parachute as he quietly absolved himself of any responsibility during his escape, what do you suppose will follow after the rest of this outfit’s virtual ankle bracelet is removed?  Do you seriously think this will in any way ‘change’ or improve their entrenched corporate culture of malfeasance in everything business, and that YOU will be immune to the next time they fear exposure of it?

Keep it up, eBay.  And the rest of you out there in your various tiers of undeserved entitlement.  You think it’s “noisy” now?  We have not yet begun to shout.

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