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by Ina Steiner, Editor of EcommerceBytes.com
Sat Nov 26 2016 15:08:05

Black Friday and Small Business Saturday Keep Sellers Busy

By: Ina Steiner

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eBay released data about its Black Friday sales, and it said it sold lots of Toys, Tech, and Fashion. You can find some of its top-selling items listed in today's post.

It also revealed a stat about mobile shopping: "eBay mobile GMB (gross merchandise bought) share vs. desktop increased 15% year-over-year."

Meanwhile today is Small Business Saturday, and you can find small sellers online as well as in brick-and-mortar stores.

eBay seller tool Terapeak reminded users that the holiday deals present buying opportunities for sellers who engage in retail arbitrage.

How are you faring this holiday weekend - where are your biggest sales coming from? Are you encountering any problems at all?

Retailers are increasingly trying to extend the holiday shopping period. Are you seeing big deals this weekend, or are you too busy fulfilling orders to check?




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by: FeelingFroggy This user has validated their user name.

Sat Nov 26 16:06:39 2016

We are just sitting back watching all the perceived problems people are having.

All five of our stores closed last Sunday until after Jan 15

So I guess we have no problems anymore. It just isn't worth it to have to babysit all the idiots who need to be burp all the time.

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This user has validated their user name. by: The End

Sun Nov 27 04:08:15 2016

DELETE ''Black Friday''. It sounds horrible. If I was a kid I'd be afraid of it.
It just doesn't sound good.
EBAY > has Nothing.
Once again we'll put the emphasis on the Christmas Dinner.
All this materialism doesn't belong at the time of the Celebration of the Birth of Christ.
We don't mess with Jewish Holy Days.
GET OFF OUR CHRISTMAS.

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Sun Nov 27 06:23:58 2016

Lots of irony in play here...

'Black', referring to overcoming the 'red ink' of merchant losses recorded in bookkeeping parlance, of course.  Ironic when referenced to apparent INCREASED merchant costs implied by advertising deep or clearance discounts supposedly benefitting buyers.  If it was 'redder' before such discounts, how can it be 'blacker' after?

Then there's the sickening attempts now to further 'extend' this nonsense.  A holiday 'season' creeping back to before the first leaves turn red.  Black Friday week.  Black Friday 'month'.  Black Friday Thursday at 6pm (!!!) fercrissakes.  All fodder for those who would disparage such undisguised capitalist greed too.  With good reason on the face of it.

And 'Small Business Saturday' on a venue that has all but decimated small businesses in favor of promoting megaseller claptrap?

And still, the masses mass to the latest (fastest) distraction from the need for critical thinking in the face of current events, and reflection on the true nature of the season.  Gifts are symbolic, not a goal.  Pa rump-a-pum-pum.

Black and Blue is more like it, considering the onslaught increasng.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Sun Nov 27 13:45:17 2016

Stores would not have Black Friday sales if they weren't successful for them.  Nor would they open on Thanksgiving Day for shoppers if there wasn't enough people willing to visit the stores and do a bit of shopping.  None of these types of sales will ever stop if there weren't those that are willing to give up their holiday with family and friends to do a bit of shopping.

So it will continue as long as shoppers remain supportive.

Small Business Saturday wasn't started to help or promote small sellers on Ebay.  It was start completely for B&M shops.  It is a good campaign and many small businesses reap the benefits.

For us small internet sellers we have Cyber Monday.  Not that it has ever done much for me personally, but there are others that do well with it.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Ming the Merciless

Sun Nov 27 15:46:56 2016

@ The End

"We don't mess with Jewish Holy Days.
GET OFF OUR CHRISTMAS."

Interesting comments. Would you please elaborate?

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by: Sorbet This user has validated their user name.

Mon Nov 28 01:01:01 2016

I had many BINs, including holiday fashions, ending Fri. and Sat. but was throttled all weekend.  Obviously I'm not a big box or Chinese seller.

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by: bb6 This user has validated their user name.

Mon Nov 28 01:29:52 2016

I agree with Marie and I personally did very well this week/weekend. I did shop myself but at home from my computer. I wouldn't ever go out shopping on Thanksgiving but some people do. While I'm with my family enjoying my time off I make sure my stores are up and running full force with sales to draw in customers and it works. While I'm sitting around my phone blows up with sales and it makes me smile. I wouldn't trade this job for the world.

@FeelingFroggy Really? Close up shop until Jan 15. Are you aware some businesses make ALL of their money in the 4th quarter during the time that you take off? And what problems are you talking about? Making money?

@the end  Do you sell anything?

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Mon Nov 28 09:43:08 2016

Eh, I didn't bother with sales this weekend.  Can't compete with places offering 50% off.  Tax deduction for destroying inventory is pretty competitive with far less effort.

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by: epuise This user has validated their user name.

Mon Nov 28 09:45:50 2016

I just want to re-post this > by "Snapped" > by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.
     
Sun Nov 27 06:23:58 2016
Lots of irony in play here...

'Black', referring to overcoming the 'red ink' of merchant losses recorded in bookkeeping parlance, of course.  Ironic when referenced to apparent INCREASED merchant costs implied by advertising deep or clearance discounts supposedly benefiting buyers.  If it was 'redder' before such discounts, how can it be 'blacker' after?

Then there's the sickening attempts now to further 'extend' this nonsense.  A holiday 'season' creeping back to before the first leaves turn red.  Black Friday week.  Black Friday 'month'.  Black Friday Thursday at 6pm (!!!) fercrissakes.  All fodder for those who would disparage such undisguised capitalist greed too.  With good reason on the face of it.

And 'Small Business Saturday' on a venue that has all but decimated small businesses in favor of promoting megaseller claptrap?

And still, the masses mass to the latest (fastest) distraction from the need for critical thinking in the face of current events, and reflection on the true nature of the season.  Gifts are symbolic, not a goal.  Pa rump-a-pum-pum.

Black and Blue is more like it, considering the onslaught increasing.

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by: blaumann This user has validated their user name.

Mon Nov 28 13:03:22 2016

views are few, sales are rare

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by: Toledo Maude This user has validated their user name.

Mon Nov 28 13:24:46 2016

I recorded my usual ''Black Friday'' sales and ''Black Friday Weekend'' sales and now ''Black Monday'' which all adds up to hardy any sales at all.

From my first eBay Christmas season (2000) until now my Christmas sales perk up on weekends and dry up during the week same as the large popular malls.

What I love about Christmas sales is that most orders are gifts that result in no returns.

My new 2016 Christmas season marketing plan is pretty much the same as the last 15 seasons, list a few new items daily and hope for the best.

The pre and post election blues killing most of November sales, and only a glimmer of hope for December sales, my hopes of renting one of the new outlet stores on the White House lawn early next year is fading.

Good luck to all this Christmas season!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Ming the Merciless

Tue Nov 29 01:59:44 2016

Cyber Monday.

Crickets.

Promoted listings.

Sales.

Crickets.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Tue Nov 29 12:03:02 2016

I agree with Ming on Cyber Monday.  I've felt for many years that eBay have been manipulating Christmas sales--sending them straight to the enterprise sellers.  They'll likely crow after the holidays about how great their sales were and I will as always say "for whom"?  

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Tue Nov 29 12:56:28 2016

I had a couple of sales earlier in the month, so I'll never know if it was that or my monthly eBay-approved success limit.

I actually spent a few bucks with WalMart this month though.  See, here's how toy distribution works in 201X.  First, you never ever send anything to stores where somebody might pay retail.  Then, you mark everything down to 40% below my "wholesale" cost with free shipping to boot.  Absolute madness.

You practically have to lock in preorders to have a chance of making it.  I can't because my suppliers lie and eBay holds me responsible for those lies.  But even amongst those who can, how long until everybody says "F preordering, I'll just wait and get it for half off a few months later?"

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Tue Nov 29 13:42:33 2016

Yep, me too.  I had a couple sales, but nothing exciting at all.  But I'm sure Ebay will announce how successful cyber Monday was for the site.  

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by: Volvo351 This user has validated their user name.

Wed Nov 30 07:59:06 2016

%RKTOYS

I'm not an accounting expert, but explain how you get a 'tax deduction from destroying inventory..?" If it didn't sell, you don't have revenue. You already have the Cost of Goods on your books as an expense. You don't have a resulting profit. Are you referring essentially to the cost of a dumpster here?

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Wed Nov 30 15:21:08 2016

Schedule C has boxes for starting and ending inventory that aren't factored into profit/loss for inventory-based businesses.  They're effectively off the books for lack of a transaction to calculate profit/loss against.  Well, donation/destruction counts as a $0 sale and sole proprietorships lump all income together at the federal level so the loss (cost-basis) reduces my regular income and I get a small refund.

It's still pretty lousy...sitting square in the 25% bracket, that's a little over $4.  Versus $6 for competing with the likes of WalMart/Target/Amazon dumping $22 toys for $12 with free shipping.  That's $12 minus $9 "free" shipping plus 25% of a $14 loss.

Short term thinking says that I should do anything and everything for another $2 but long term is a different story.  On a micro level, you can't keep paying $26 to make $6.  On a macro level, a market that desperate eventually eats itself.  My business is toast either way so why keep playing the game?

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This user has validated their user name. by: RKTOYS

Wed Nov 30 16:07:11 2016

And I will say this too.  You're lucky if you only have eBay or Amazon on your back.  Imagine if you were constantly sabotaged on the supply side as well.  Everything is a lie, not just when they'll deliver but _if_ they'll deliver, and they know it.  Once you fall for it, that's it, the weasels have your capital locked up for as long as they see fit.  eBay and Amazon, monstrous as they are, can't stop you from going somewhere else.

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This user has validated their user name. by: NiciArt
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Sat Dec 3 11:51:20 2016

Looking back at the sales this past week, Black Friday and Cyber Monday were both 50% down over last year with Amazon Handmade being the only platform to deliver a nice steady increase. It seems like election shock overshadowed the typical shopping days and most shoppers woke up on Dec 1st, realizing Christmas was not cancelled. Literally we went from trickle to sales by the minute on Etsy. Amazon was been great in the over $250.00 price range, while Ebay sales have been non-existent.

It's been a very strange 4th quarter so far with all the traditional patterns entirely absent  



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