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by Ina Steiner, Editor of EcommerceBytes.com
Mon Feb 11 2013 13:27:18

eBay Woos Toy Makers at New York Toy Show

By: Ina Steiner

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eBay is exhibiting at the American International Toy Show in New York City this week (booth 4011). According to a merchant attending the show, eBay is there to persuade manufacturers to lift their restrictions on retailers who wish to sell branded toys on eBay.

Certain companies prohibit authorized dealers and retailers from selling on eBay (according to the seller, those include Playcraft, Guidecraft and Lego). "They also all have strict MAP policies (especially in the ride on toy business) and eBay was again "fishing" for more sellers and more permissions," the seller reported.

This article from July about Adidas pulling its merchandise from online marketplaces, including eBay, shows how serious manufacturers take the issue of MAP (minimum advertised pricing) and how it's impacting sites such as Amazon and eBay. It also explains why eBay is so committed to attracting large retailers like ToysRUs to its marketplace to ensure there are authorized dealers on its site offering popular new products.

Toy sellers, feel free to chime in on what restrictions and challenges you face on eBay (and Amazon.com and other marketplaces). And if you're attending the show, take a picture of eBay's booth for us. The show runs through the 13th, and if you can't make it, you can read about it on the Toy Industry Association's Play Happens website.

You can also follow news coming out of the Toy Fair by searching the hashtag #ToyFair or #tfny on Twitter.




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by: pace306 This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 11 16:44:50 2013

Im the person who sent this in ... I missed them myself - because thier booth was listed in an addendum section on a type written piece of paper, and not printed in the main directory.

Just imagine if eBay put as much work on fixing the 1000s of broken bits and not on nonesence like this.

Ive said it many many times, there are ALOT of companies that just HATE eBay (just not inthe way we do). We have a dart board with JDs pic, and every time he makes another boneheaded change, we throw a dart.

These companies have teams of lawyers, plus people like NetEnforcers who spend all say trolling eBay for victims (with eBays blessings of course). In the rotten ecosystem known as eBay, its all play for pay. eBay begs sellers to write to Washington for everything, asks for support when THEY get sued, yet when its thier sellers, they sit back and do nothing. (serves eBay right to get treated the same way they treat us).

eBay is known as an unauthorized distribution channel - PERIOD.

In the last month Ive gone to 4 buying shows - CES, Toy Fair, Agenda and NAMM (music show) ... guess what the common thread is ???   All together now ...

NO GOD D_MN eBay or ELSE!

makes you laugh, makes you cry!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen
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Mon Feb 11 19:13:49 2013

eBay too is running ads on cable TV in Australia at the moment—things must be desperate ...

eBay / PayPal / Donahoe: Dead Men Walking ... http://bit.ly/11F2eas

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This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen
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Mon Feb 11 19:24:51 2013

Fortunately, MAP is unlawful in Australia ... big trouble with the ACCC if brand owners get caught trying to enforce it ...

Toysrus seems to have marginally improved their STR on eBay from ~5% to ~7% ... Whoopeeeeeeeee

eBay / PayPal / Donahoe: Dead Men Walking ...

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by: Patricia This user has validated their user name.

Tue Feb 12 12:08:20 2013

Well, if its any indication I've had two items up for 3 days....only 4 views each.  Before JD the two items would have been quadruple those views by now.  So, I'll take them from there when they roll off with no bids and put them elsewhere where they will sell.  That's what's been happening for me and I'm sure for a lot of other sellers.....no traffic!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen
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Tue Feb 12 18:57:53 2013

Just noticed that "toysrus" are selling a few very low priced items by auction. What's going on? Are they so disappointed with eBay's BIN sales (STR ~7%) that they are now going to try some auctions? How then are they going to get the asking price? For example, look at “Homefront for Xbox 360” on toysrus and you will see a BIN for $14.98 and an auction, presently with 5 bids at $5.50. What are they going to do to get their $14.98 asking price? Employ the same shill bidding contractor as McFadden?

eBay / PayPal / Donahoe: Dead Men Walking ... http://bit.ly/11F2eas

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by: pace306 This user has validated their user name.

Tue Feb 12 23:36:01 2013

Philip ... I doubt they will be into shill bidding - they dont have the time, and for them its just not worth it ...

They will either:

1) Not complete the sale. Since they dont get punnished, they can cancel any sale they want - since as we all know DSRs and negatives dont count for them.

or 2) they will get MDF from the company that makes the game to cover thier losses

or 3) eBay is fronting the money as a traffic enhancement program for the volume FVF's TRU provides.

Ive worked for big companies like this - TRUST ME - they dont loose! Someone, somewhere will make up the difference.

eBay can keep showing up at shows and continue to make a jackass out of itself - but if TRU has "lowered themselves down" to doing auctions then its a HUGE indicator of the things we all already knew about eBay.

1) no traffic - so you run a few loss leaders
2) the quality of customer stinks so bad that even TRU cant take it, so they are trying to get a "new breed" to buy from them
3) they have a plan in mind to "buy" the customer "eating the loss" as a cost to obtain him/her.

I read Ina's posts about what the eBay execs say - and its so far off the mark that its laughable. They have no solid business paln going forward except going back to the same well over and over - with stunts like the forced entry into the returns policy. Its win win for them so they will do it ..... "our customers asked for it". The bait n switch is the scam they rolled out with that RITCH guy who swears theres seller protection ... Look HERE, not THERE!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen
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Wed Feb 13 00:29:46 2013

@pace306,

I was joking about TRU shill bidding, of course; TRU is, unlike eBafia, undoubtedly not such a blatant criminal enterprise …

Regardless, if you look at the massive amount of blatant shill bidding that is taking place on eDropOff’s ~250 daily auctions, it is clear that they would not have the time to do such shill bidding either; obviously, such shill bidding is being contracted out to another criminal enterprise and that whole shill bidding activity is being performed by a sophisticated computer algorithm—very little human intervention required, I suspect …

A list of the most blatantly obvious shill bidding IDs appearing on eDropOff’s auctions (there are very many others not so blatantly obvious): http://bit.ly/Z9nx3I

eBay / PayPal / Donahoe: Dead Men Walking ... http://bit.ly/11F2eas

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This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen
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Wed Feb 13 12:35:41 2013

I appreciate that it is difficult for some sellers, notwithstanding that sellers pay the fees to eBay, to comprehend that, quite logically, if eBay does not “look after” the buyers there will ultimately be no buyers, no sales for you, and no fees for eBafia.

The fact that eBafia’s imbecilic policies of recent years have encouraged every scamming buyer in the world to crawl out of the woodwork, and eBafia goes about supposedly “protecting” buyers in the most incompetent, unscrupulous, clunky way is another matter—and rightly criticised.

But, eBay is an equal opportunity criminal organisation: they will blatantly aid and abet unscrupulous sellers to cheat buyers at shilled auctions just as quickly as they will use every devious means to squeeze an extra penny out of fee-paying sellers: the only concern of the criminals running this enterprise is to maximise the number of bonus shares they receive—while the eBay BoD and the corporate regulators slumber on …

And, has it not always been so in corporate America …

eBay / PayPal / Donahoe: Dead Men Walking ... http://bit.ly/11F2eas

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by: Massachusets Howler This user has validated their user name.

Wed Feb 13 17:08:58 2013

Oh yes Phil- TRU is a BAIN company!
The REASON folks don't even TRY to sell toys is because their items are shown well behind TRU items- nobody can compete- TRU was the 1st big box to be brought in under JD and it is a BAIN company, and I am glad you are watching them Phil- keep watching.
TRU gets EXTRA SPECIAL DSR help from JD!
Wish we had your OMNIBUDSMAN here in the US Phil then we could at least ADVERTISE other payment methods!
Peace to you Phil, and KEEP WATCHING TRU!
Mass Howler

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This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen
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Thu Feb 14 04:57:44 2013

And when you guys and gals have finished perusing that list of the most blatant shill bidding IDs that regularly appear on the auctions of “she who cannot be named”, you should then attempt tackle the updated, and ever growing, long version of this most ugly story of the eBafia’s calculated and blatant aiding and abetting of such fraud on the consumers of the world, at http://bit.ly/11F2eas

eBay / PayPal / Donahoe: Dead Men Walking ...

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This user has validated their user name. by: permacrisis

Tue Feb 19 16:39:27 2013

And like I said before- shill 'bids' bring higher prices, but shill 'BINs' bring bogus DSR's and higher search placement!



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