eBay Ads Send Shoppers to Staples

by: Philip Cohen
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"In May, eBay spokesperson Johnna Hoff said the ads that had begun appearing on Item pages would be almost exclusively in the realm of brand advertising ..."

Well, she did say "almost exclusively".

And, how can you tell when an eBay/PayPal representative is lying? Their lips are moving!

by: bitbybit

Report from the LA Times Sept 2012 ''A report that several private equity firms -- including original investor Bain Capital -- are considering buying Staples Inc. pushed the office supply chain’s stock up as much as 6.2% on Friday.''

It's all about the stock and appeasing Wall Street. Expect to see more Bain & ebay vested interests in the way of ads on all sellers pages.

by: iheartjacksparrow

"[Hoff] said the purpose of the ads was not to compete with sellers, but rather, to bring additional value to the View Item page."

Call me crazy, but taking potential buyers away from a seller's listing to an off-site retailer sure seems like competition to me. I would be livid if I was paying for a listing and eBay shoehorned one of those ads into my space.

by: Philip Cohen
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Clunky PreyPal got its even clunkier POS foot in the door at Home Depot on the same basis: the Bain connection, apparently ...

Ah well, the eBay finacials are out on Wednesday; should be fun trying to find one's way through all the smoke and mirrors ...

by: Jbyron

EBays disfunction has just about reached critical mass. It is beginning to fail in a big way.  

by: Ric

"[Hoff] said the purpose of the ads was not to compete with sellers, but rather, to bring additional value to the View Item page."

What a fool.... Johnna Hoff must also accept the premise that network TV viewers tune in to watch the commercials.

by: Philip Cohen
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Well, if they are plonking a Staples ad on your page can you at least hope that potential buyers are going to see your page before they go to Staples?

Regardless, it's "logic" that could otherwise only be found in an institution for the insane ... so, what new?

by: Philip Cohen
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That reminds me, has Ms Hoff yet responded to Ina's question about the reason for the watering down of the Shill Bidding policy in the US only?

Not that we could take any response with other than a grain of salt anyway ... just curious ...

by: Ed Gadfly

Ok Small Fry, step aside. The customer wants to spend some money.

Thanks for attracting the fly with your little piece of... bait. Now go list some more. eBa'al and Staples will take that money that would have gone to the rare appearance of a customer in your eBa'al store.

Jump through all sorts of hoops to get a ''discount'' and better placement in ''Search'' and then eBa'al - YOUR BOSS, pulls the football away from your charging Charlie Brown.

eBa'al is ripping you off, aren't they? They make you operate to a much higher level of customer satisfaction than any other establishment.

Yet it is all right for eBa'al to walk all over you, the seller paying the bills, and when they are done walking on you, they wipe the soles of their shoes on your face.

''There isn't any place better.'' That's why people keep listing here.

Then sellers wonder why buyers have no respect for them.

Do your friends and cow orkers sell on eBay? Get a new money source to join and you can have 5 free listings!!!

eBa'al - More Value, Greater FUn.

by: Bloggo

ebay math:  "additional value to the View Item page" + "taking a credit instead of cash for the things you sell on eBay" = You lose.

by: wallflower

"She said the purpose of the ads was not to compete with sellers, but rather, to bring additional value to the View Item page."

And DSRs are for our info only and will never be held against us...

by: Anonymous Annie

The cost-per-click that eBay receives for those ads must be a penny or so more than the FVF + PP transaction fee.

Obviously, the extra penny in profit is more important that building a sustainable base of thriving sellers.

It's all about next quarter's bottom line... NOT in building or strengthening the eBay sellers.

EBAY IS CHIPPING AWAY AT THE FOUNDATION OF ITS OWN CASTLE WALLS!

eBay execs are doing this so that they can use the gravel and rubble to make outward improvements to their castle. They destroy from within to build thicker battlements, wider parapets, larger keeps, and taller towers with ornate spires.

This castle is an impressive-looking sight from a distance. All challengers who approach from the RIVER VALLEY side would surely be intimidated and abandon their quest! It would be logical to assume that such splendor and grandeur can only represent great strength and power.

BUT DON'T LOOK TOO CLOSE!!

Do not confuse the mere appearance of ''strength and power'' as being the same thing as ''wisdom and vision''.

Challengers who approach the castle from the WOODS & HILLS would easily discover what a fragile and vulnerable place this castle really is. The foundation is crumbling... the walls are sagging... the moat is dry, the crenels are gone.

Peek inside the castle walls to discover the well has run dry, the latrine overflows, barnyard animals roam freely because even the stable doors have been salvaged to make shingles for the spires. Those who reside inside are weak and struggling with illness and disease.

THINGS ARE NOT AS THEY APPEAR!!

by: Patricia

What do I think?  I think it stinks!...but, sadly, none of us are surprised.  Ebay sinks lower and lower every day!

by: Massachusets Howler

For once, I am SPEECHLESS.
Tell me we are now not in a BAIN WORLD- I want NOTHING TO DO with Bain & Co!
Ina please GIVE US A LIST of companies that accept PP so we can all boycott them.
WE PAY SPECIFIC FEES FOR THAT SPACE and if ebay says WE cannot do it than THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT!
We are TOLD we cannot do that and then EBAY does it to us on OUR OWN ADS for THE COMPETITION!!!!
Mass Howler

by: Massachusets Howler

Ebays OWN RULES:

''No outside links''.

What's up JD?

Mass Howler

by: Ron

It's hard to figure out what eBay's long game is when they incite people to leave their own marketplace to shop elsewhere, typically a large big box type retailer.  One can only deduce that their ultimate aim is to forge relationships with those retailers in order to establish their payment services (i.e. Pay Pal) as the way to transact purchases with those large retailers.  Personally, I think that Donahoe has decided that eBay's future is as a payments service, which explains their focus on mobile shopping.  If that is the case, their strategy is really risky, as I don't see any major barriers to competitive entry on the part of other payment services - I can't see Visa or Master Card taking this lying down.  I just think that Donahoe wasn't up to the task of making the marketplace work.  You can see that everything that they do is focused on extracting any revenue growth by nickel and dime-ing their user base rather than investing in infrastructure that would help sellers transact and market their offerings.  Just my opinion.

by: bitbybit

Instead of building on an already successful marketplace, Donahoe disrupted and tore it apart. He seems to have no idea how to make a business thrive. JD reminds me of a bully walking along a beach and destroying kids sandcastles. He probably is one to level historical buildings instead of restoring them to their original beauty.

by: Massachusets Howler

Hoff should have said the TRUTH- that it bringrs greater value ($) TO EBAY.
Now THAT's the TRUTH Ms. Hoff.
Mass Howler

by: nsc
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Ron,

Cassini would seem to represent a large investment in infrastructure on the part of ebay. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like a successful investment at this juncture, but it is definitely a large one.

by: Digmen1
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Gee how does that woman sleep?

What does bring additional value to the page mean?