Product-Safety Warning Exposes eBay Feedback Flaws

by: baconsdozen
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Ebay allowing the sale of counterfeit items? I don't believe it.
Ebay not available for comment
Oh surely not.
Private sales are ebays new hiding place for dodgy sellers.

by: rstpete

And when ebay gets a black eye and allows it to go on we all get a black eye and more suspicious buyers ready to give bad FB and or DSR's.  

by: Bloggo

eBay is the only place on earth where 99% is Top rated and 100% isn't.

by: FREDDY

Wonder if it is possible for UL to sue seller(batteryconnection) and ebay?  They are a non profit but the need cash for expenses. Did the ebay seller have to submit all items they are selling to see if they are fakes??? Maybe they would have to go through arbitration in ebay(Utah)???
Wonder how many more items fall into fake UL tags.? Recalled items??
Just hurts all the small HONEST sellers trying to make a few bucks.

by: walrus2646

Yes, fell into that trap awhile back - bought a selection of battery sizes from them - after trying ALL of them - threw them all out, swallowed my pride, sulked for an hour and then went back to eBay and bought Duracells.  Worked fine .

by: Leesantiques

Just looked on Ebay - and this seller is still showing over 700 active listings, still showing as a top-rated seller.  I reported them to Ebay.

Maybe if we all did that, Ebay would take them down!!

by: ebay refugee camp

GOOD FOR YOU UL!!!! This exposes ebay's DISCRIMINATION where they embrace the huge sellers and punish small sellers. Smaller selers obey the rules have 100 percent positive feedback have high DSR's and yet they are not a TRS. Ebay is going to deny everything for whatever reason, but there is no reason that they can give which would be acceptable. You can go on for years having 100% positive feedback, maybe you sell 2500 items a year and are perfect and just because you do not ship in 24 hours you are punished. How about punishing this bad seller ebay, we can all do the math. How many of you lost your discount? this seller who is really bad is protected by the numbers is getting a discount in fees. It is unfair and just dispicable for this kind of policy to be in place. In my opinion ebay should be forced to give discounts back to this who deserve them and make that retroactive. Mnay of work very hard and are punished for doing so how wrong is that.    

by: Frump

Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but do we know for sure that this company knew the batteries were fakes? I know in the past, a company I worked for got tricked into buying counterfeits and didn't know until the rights owner contacted the head of the company. Does anyone know if other sell this battery?

by: Rexford

It does seem like the eBay looks the other way with the big boys and pulls the hammer down constantly on the smaller sellers, even when the small sellers have done nothing wrong.

I wonder if this is the seller who I bought worthless camera batteries from that won't hold a charge (and bought them on eBay)

by: Red Ink Diary

Its a numbers game? Well yes! The sellers negative and neutral feedback represents less than 2% of their total feedback over the last 12 months. Doesn't look so bad does it?

Taking a look at Mary Microseller with 500 feedback in the last 12 months, 10 negs and or neutrals would have her off the site.

Sam Smallseller with 1500 feedback in the last 12 months, 25 of which are negs and or neutrals seems to be doing OK but at 99.1 is he skating on the edge?

by: EssexEstateServices

Seems like ebay has become the conduit for counterfeit, fake and dangerous merchandise. They do active monitoring on designer brands such as Rolex, Gucci, LV, etc, but seem to ignore issues like counterfeit batteries, toys with lead based paint content, fake perfumes, and other potentially property damaging or life threatening products.

To bad, ebay used to be a safe and fun place.    

by: wallflower

There are plenty of fake batteries on Amazon too.

by: thehosst

A seller with hundreds of negative feedbacks? I seen lots of sellers with excessive number of negative feedbacks showing top seller, terrible and unfair really.  

by: Al G

To paraphrase Capt Renault
"I'm shocked, shocked ..."
"Round up the usual suspects. "

by: eBankrupted

All manufacturers using the UL Logo must show the listing number issued by Underwriter's Laboratory on the label. Insurance companies can deny claims on fire/loss events if the number turns out to be bogus, so the liability of the seller is far greater than the cost of the battery or power device - it can be the cost of human life and total property damage if the goods display the UL logo and result in loss due to hazard. Ebay should be completely liable for losses if a UL counterfeit is sold within their market by their pampered 'Diamond' sellers!

All buyers of these UL counterfeits should contact the FTC and DHS/CBP to demand the UL Certificate for these items, and if UL shows no record, ebay and their precious 'Diamond' level sellers should be raided and fined accordingly. If it saves just one life; wouldn't it be worth it to teach ebay a lesson?

Ebay takes great pleasure in taking away its consumer rights to class action lawsuits, but the Federal Trade Commission and DHS/CBP have the ultimate power in shutting ebay down for cultivating this black market that makes a mockery of international insurance underwriter standards.

How much money has Donahoe now cost shareholders?

by: permacrisis

Since installing thebatteryconnection's Baboom® Brand™ battery in my iPod, I can attest to the performance of this battery. Before, when I turned up the 1812 Overture,the cannons only hurt my ears a little. Now, simply by charging the unit for fifteen minutes, I'm able to create a deafening explosion far louder than the music itself, able to rattle windows an impressive two blocks down the street.  

You may be supposing this could get expensive, but that simply isn't true. With ebay's Buyer Protection Program, I'm able to get a FREE replacement Baboom® Brand™ battery shipped to me the very next day, and do it all over again!
Encore!!!

by: Patricia

Gee....you don't think Ebay is protecting a top seller....do you?  ;-p

by: nothingnew
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I have 1 neg feedback out of 421 and that 1 neg brought my 100% score down to 96% as of today. It keeps bringing thet down each day because i'm not listing and when I do sell, most never post feedback. BUNCH OF BS if you ask me.

by: Marie

I don't believe Ebay knowing allows anyone to sell counterfit anything.  But when items are reported, they are extremely slow to respond as I can personally attest to.  With products I sell, there has been several times where I've ran across sellers clearly selling fake products.  It's about 50/50 to get Ebay to respond and get them removed in any reasonable amount of time.

Now this particular sellers is the clearest case I've seen of Ebay CLEARLY manipulating DSRs.  Many have alleged this before and I've always been confident it happens, but this one is so clear it slaps you in the face.

While in my experience many buyers that post negative FB don't do the DSRs too as they think it is the neg FB that does the most damage to a seller, the majority of buyers that post neutrals do.  

This seller is certainly being evaluated on the 90 day period due to the volume they do.  And lets say they do 60,000 transaction in that 90 day period.  Now if they get a minimum of 300 low DSRs in any one category, they do not qualify for TRS.  

Just using the numbers available on their FB.  There are 2274 neutrals.  2274 divided by 12 = 189.50.  Times that by 3 months = 568.  More than enough, by itself to knock them out of TRS if the buyers are doing the DSRs.

With the negs it is 2048 divided by 12 = 170.67.  Times 3 months = 512.01.  Again more than enough.

And these are just the numbers on the negs and neutrals.  As any sellers knows, many buyers leave postive FB and low DSRs.  

So clearly this is a case of Ebay manipulation and absolutely should NEVER happen.

by: Philip Cohen
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As far as eBafia is concerned the only thing that matters is the FVF on the transaction ... then we all know that already, don't we ...