eBay Bans PayPal in Early Payments Beta

by: RL15

today, august 1st... fleacebay stock hits a 52 week low.


way to go fleacebay!!

by: Silver Ice King

@Tool

They figure that you will pay them when they sick the collection agencies and attorney's on you.

But the reason they are not taking the money out is they do not have the program ready to all sellers to reconcile the amounts and tie things together.  If they take their fees out up front they have to be able to supply you with the documents that show you got what you were supposed to and they don't want all the phone calls complaining because its short.  

Also they still cannot give me an accurate monthly Sales report that I can count on for tax purposes or any purposes month in and month out.  How are they going to ever prepare an accurate report showing what they took out of each payment??

I bet they will not consider that a cost of doing business as there are never supposed to be any costs to Ebay, only  the sellers.

by: maxmad

@toolguy


Your talking crazy talk, the world doesn't revolve around crap ebay,


Start up your website again, accept Paypal and with half the money you save in FVF on Shipping use it to advertise your site,

by: toolguy

@ Silver Ice King

"@Tool

They figure that you will pay them when they sick the collection agencies and attorney's on you."

No biggie, I stiffed Bank of America in 2010 for $33,000 in credit card debt.
That same year I stiffed Chase for $19,000

I have collectors calling me all the time!

They can't take what I don't have!

They didn't want to work with me when I had money, now they'll never get a single cent. . .

by: toolguy

@Maxmad

I might start up my website again.

I still have my domain z50.com

Godaddy offered me $2800 for it, but in my mind it's worth 10x that being you can't get 3 digit domains anymore. . .

by: Mark4

ebay lost over 2000 of our listings photos last month due to a "corruption issue" with their picture server. Finally the ebay CS we were talking to admitted they had been hacked. And now we are suppose to trust ebay as a payment processor??  Give me a break, we are out.   Ebay = Dead Man Walking

by: The End

@ iheartjacksparrow ;
Very Nice  :o)
Is the site still active ?

by: Bill

Why are they foisting a Beta out that from what I am reading is full of kinks. These should have been taken care of in the Alpha in the sand box.

Are these people stupid?

The answer is: YES they are.

eBay = Dead Man Walking

by: deejae137

Love this line "Ebay cant even secure pictures yet they want to process sensitive information payments."  Furthermore, eBay can even take care of the photos in my listings, yet eBay wants me to trust them with my money and to distribute my money to me in a time efficient manner???  EBay places themselves between me and my buyer and I see how wonderful that is .....NOT.  EBay now wants to place themselves between me, my money and the buyer.....oh, heck no!!!  I have been winding my business down over the last 3 months and will be gone by December.  At one time (before Donahoe took over the CEO position), I spent as much as $7,000 a month buying on eBay (not to mention what I was selling).....now, eBay is lucky to see $70 a year in purchases.  By the end of December, my purchases will be ZERO and my seller invoice will be ZERO.  We are not a dime a dozen....nor are we replaceable.  Loyalty was something, now there is no loyalty, only loathing!!

by: mcposty

I hope these marketplaces fall hard.

by: wilburnet

@Toolguy

No biggie, I stiffed Bank of America in 2010 for $33,000 in credit card debt.
That same year I stiffed Chase for $19,000

How many years In the US does debt like this come off your credit file/ report ? I done something similar before and in the UK the debt is wiped after 6 years. The company i had the debt with called after the 6 years and i happily told them i cant be chased no more the 6 years have passed.

Also, are you really not going to ship out that $40k worth of stock ?

by: Chicago48

People need not get upset about the "beta" testing.  This happens all the time across the internet.  And I believe there are some sites that give you the option to try "beta" testing (ex: emails), but make it hard to go back to classic.
I don't see a problem with this provision.  Just DO NOT OPT IN!

by: uppercutknives

Ebay is putting the final pegs in its coffin. I left ebay last month after 20 years selling. Now I'm glad I did. This is a mess and is getting worse.  I don't even shop on ebay anymore. Its straight off to Amazon with my dollars.

Folks get out now while you still have the shirt on your back. Ebay wants that too.

by: Whatever

I wish we could post those cute little pictures here - mine would be snoopy doing the happy dance

I'm quite happy about all this - I've been working my little hiney off and have my inventory up to 2,000 items in just a couple of months on my own website. My ebay fees are under $100 now compared to $500 a month a few months ago and all those buyers that ebay will be driving away will hopefully show up on my own venue now - thank you idiots at ebay.

enough said

by: Whatever

Chicago - I don't think it's so much about not being able to opt out for most - I think it's about ebay's lack of disclosure - the sneaky way they are baiting folks into it if their stupid enough to fall for it.

by: abfab

@Silver Ice King
@Lightning

Hi, I am more panicked about the 3rd Party listing comments. The video mentioned ''3rd Party accounting/financial tools.'' I don't use any separate accounting programs, but I do rely on my 3rd Party ''listing'' vendor, Auction Wizard 2000, to do all of my listings to eBay. Using it since 2001. It will kill me to not be able to use it. I have over 15K auction lots all prepared for when I want to list including my pix, script, etc. Not being able to use it would be devastating to me even though I am a very small seller.

I did contact my vendor who said he went to the eBay developer site and sees no mention of the above and is checking into it. My reply to him: not surprised since eBay has no transparency and no early notifications of changes to come. Will report back here once he gets back to me. In fact, I would think if that ''no 3rd Party listing vendors'' is true, he would be out of business.

by: eastwestphoto

yeaks this is a heart attack from eBay, I dont like the terms and conditions.

by: maxmad

ebay will most likely kill 3rd Party listing companies, so they can provide the service themselves , expect a glitch based service at a higher price

to survive ebay will need to suck the sellers for every last dollar they have, sellers are going to be in for some seriously shocking fee increases, ebay is in financial trouble, and sellers are their only revenue.

by: HappyPicker

@ abfab ... Thanks for contacting the vendor for Auction Wizard 2000. I've used the program since 1999 and can't imagine not using it!  I'll be watching for your reply.  

by: Silver Ice King

@abfab

From what I have seen on another blog it appears that only the 3rd party backend transactions will be down at least for awhile.  Those that download the information into Quickbooks and things like that are going to lose that if they opted into the Beta Test that starts in September.

As usual Ebay has promised something that they cannot deliver on so they are going to put a product out that is below the standards that most would expect from a payment intermediary.  They are still using the offshore programmers from India and paying as little as possible for their programming and Judge Million says on The People Court in spanish but translates to ''The Cheap comes out Expensive'' and that is what is going to wind up happening to Ebay if they ever get it working at all.

If Ebays results for the 4th quarter are not exceptional and I do mean Exceptional I fully expect Wenig to be gone sooner rather than later.  I believe he has promised more than his cheap labor and yes men can deliver, ever.