eBay GMV Down 4 Percent in the Fourth Quarter 2019

by: eBay Shill Buster

eBay has nothing but fees to list, Amazon offers all sellers unlimited free listings that are all good til canceled, until eBay offers the same, all the inventory is heading to Amazon, in the mean time Schenkel is still running Temken's and Wenig's automated good til canceled fee generation script thinking that is going to save eBay.

What a joke, sellers are pulling inventory and ending listings and taking everything to Amazon, Offerup.com and Letgo.com

by: iheartjacksparrow

@Geetar - Anaheim, California. My house is zoned residential, not even mixed use, so I have strict rules to follow (no signs with my business name out front, no people coming to my door, etc.). The city I moved from had a cap of $10K (not the reason I moved). At one point I had considered moving to Bellflower, but they don't even allow home businesses.  

by: toolguy

@iheartjacksparrow

What do you mean Bellflower doesn't allow home business???

I think that would be ILLEGAL

From the Bellflower Chamber of Commerce website:


How Can We Help?

Our moto is "Growing Together". We're here to help you grow your business and thrive. Whether you're an at home based business or large corporation, there's a place for you with the Bellflower Chamber of Commerce.



And NOWHERE on the City of Anaheim page do I see a limit on how much a home business can make. . . . .

by: iheartjacksparrow

@toolguy - From the Bellflower Home Occupation Permit Application: "There will be no products/goods stored, sold or displayed on the premises." So that means I would have to rent a warehouse or storage facility to keep all my merchandise in, and every time I sold something, I would have to run to the warehouse and pick up the item(s), come back home, and then pack and ship. Why on earth would I do that? Also, since most of my merchandise is on shelving units, labeled so they could easily be found, they would be considered to be displayed since anyone from the city could walk in and see them sitting there.

by: Paul W

All the Managed Payment bashers around here with their horror stories are folks who are NOT IN Managed Payments.  One of my stores HAS BEEN in MP for about 9 months and it works just fine.  Daily deposits into my free checking account, always within 3 days.  As soon as eBay works out all the kinks for international sales I'll happily move my anchor store to MP as well.  

I challenge any eBayer who IS in MP to tell us their story.  Those who aren't in MP, who therefore know not of what they speak, should just settle down.  All this bluster about leaving eBay because of MP is just silly..

by: shut1968

We'll see how this next year goes.. you know.. when they force out sellers by trying to force them in Managed Payments??  The interest they'll bring is free money for them but it wont offset the losses of sellers leaving.. I know we will be pulling out on the last day, that's a loss of 250k per year for them.. We shall keep hoping they will give it up and make it optional but if not soooo long.

by: Silver Ice King

@Iheartjacksparrow

I used to live in Long Beach and ran 2 businesses out of my home.  One was a service business where I went to the clients home or office so that I was able to avoid the excessive traffic to my home.  The other was selling on Ebay and never had any problems with the city over my items being stored in my garage (also where I did most of the work other than printing shipping labels).  

Another possibility for you could be to work out a deal with a storage facility where you can store your items but also have power for lighting and a small office area where you can do all of the work including packaging.  I had a client who did this for many years and his rent for the facility was only $250 month including utilities.  Since the inventory was stored in another city and his customers were all online there was no additional traffic of any kind at either facility so he did not draw attention from the city or his neighbors.  He lived in Torrance and if i remember correctly the storage facility was in Gardena and he was doing well over $100k gross a year.  Just a thought that might be feasible for you depending on what nearby cities allow as far as running your business from the Storage Facility.  His space was also inside so it was not obvious to passersby that his business even existed.

by: eBay Shill Buster

Paul W, it is not bluster, we have already moved the bulk of our inventory to Amazon as millions of other sellers have done, we will not be at the mercy of the White Collar Criminal Stooges running eBay. We see how inept they are daily, that have no idea how to run the eBay marketplace, that is why Wenig was fired and why the incompetent Board of Directors is looking for someone to lead this highly dysfunctional organization.

by: Davina T

I'm glad I quit selling. From now on, I buy, and bargain hunt to keep the lucky surviving Ebay sellers happy.

by: iheartjacksparrow

@Paul W - I believe the "Mangled Payment Bashers" are afraid, given eBay's history of being hacked and losing information (photos; or was that another hack?), plus the glitches that occur on an almost daily basis, that the personal information they are required to provide to eBay will end up being compromised and their identity stolen. That's not an unreasonable fear since eBay doesn't seem to care what happens to their sellers.  

by: toolguy

@iheartjacksparrow

Your words: "At one point I had considered moving to Bellflower, but they don't even allow home businesses."

A good friend of mine is a free lance IT expert, he works out of his home in Bellflower (Lakewood & Alondra)

He has no inventory, he doesn't ship from home or have any clients come to his home. But yet he has a "home business" registered in Bellflower!

So your above statement is INCORRECT

by: Ebay Little Shop of Horrors

Jeez, you still can't see item descriptions via phone?

I think they may be thinking streamling, simplifying, ease of transfer, down the road. Anyway, ...

I know something bout Schenkel. I never said anything before because I enjoyed watching and catching it, but I havent watched a quarterly report in a long time, so....

Schenkel has a give-away. His body language is perfect, eye contact, everything precision and practised, except his voice. It goes up when he says something hes uncomfortable with, like lying.

To me its like an octave, and its funny, but Ive had to spend a lifetime noticing these things.

by: eBay Shill Buster

After working under Wenig , with the new CEO still covering for his many criminal schemes before sellers and investors Schenkel could do Tiny Tim - Tip Toe Thru' The Tulips With Me, with all the lies he is telling he will hit higher notes than Tiny Tim ever did....

by: Geetar

@iheartjacksparrow

Wow, i had no idea. I did think about it once in a while. I live in NY, and sell in between 150k-200k a year. I dont know if it is legal in NYC, but have not had any problems.

I am looking to relocate to FLA because cost of living here in NYC is way too high. I guess that is something I should look into. If need be I would purchase commercial / mixed use. Anyone here know how it is in FLA?

by: toolguy

@iheartjacksparrow

I just got off the phone with the city of Bellflower

City Hall
16600 Civic Center Drive
Bellflower, CA 90706
(562) 804-1424

The planning dept. told me that technically you can't store items for sale on your property but they also said if my next door neighbor doesn't know I'm running a business out of my garage the city is OK with it. . . . .The city only gets involved if a neighbor complains!

by: eBay Shill Buster

Even with the good til canceled fee churning script running since before Wenig was fired eBay earnings are down, sales are down for sellers and the Titanic is sinking into the darkness, eBay is very dead at this moment, ZERO sales are coming in. Sellers with eBay stores are being fee churned contrary to popular belief.

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/GTC-is-costing-Me-and-eBay-money
-with-this-Bogus-policy-quot/m-p/30632743#M1541701

Jan 30, 2020 4:11:14 AM


My sales are down at least 50% since they implemented those bogus policies in 2019, Now instead of having over 1,000 listings per my store subscription I only keep about 900 so not to go over and be hit with those TRICKY fees. How does that help either of us. Just the other day over 200 listings got relisted under this head scratching policy when I stepped out for a bit so I had to end and relist them to get a new start date so that = 400 listings WOW ! (Who wants an old start date ~ looks like it has been around forever) Now I am out of my 1,000 listings and can't list any more without paying extra listing fees. (SO TIRED OF HAVING TO MONITOR MY LISTINGS THIS WAY)

I guess I will put all the new ones on a different site how unprofessional !!! (They loose out not me)

What a Blessing that this is not the only selling platform out there !!!!

Good Luck to all & Happy New Year

"They will Not keep us from Making Money just Making them Money"

by: iheartjacksparrow

@toolguy - I'm sorry, but I believe most people who have a home business would be selling out of their home by mail, or making items in their home to sell online or craft fairs or swap meets or whatever. So for a city to say you can have "home" business but won't allow you to run it out of your home is kind of ridiculous, wouldn't you say?  

by: DingDong

@Paul W
Why don't you post on eBay's Managed Payment boards to have the fellow MP sellers post on this site their experiences with managed payment - good or bad or ?
They can set up a different ID here so that if eBay checks here that they won't get "hit"

by: iheartjacksparrow

toolguy writes: "The planning dept. told me that technically you can't store items for sale on your property but they also said if my next door neighbor doesn't know I'm running a business out of my garage the city is OK with it. . . . ."

So you'd advocating that I violate the rules of a city and possibly ruin my business? Is that another one of your brilliant business ideas like not collecting sales tax and possibly spending the rest of your life in prison? No thank you. I don't need your help in running my business; I've been doing fine without you for decades.

by: iheartjacksparrow

In other news, Amazon's business is up 21% YOY.