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Tue Jan 9 2024 15:05:39

Should Etsy Open Separate Area for Stanley Cup Resellers?

By: Ina Steiner

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Etsy sellers are debating whether the company should allow resellers of mass-produced goods onto the platform - it currently allows only items that are handmade, vintage, or craft supplies. "I'm sure lots of you have heard of the latest craze with the Stanley x Starbucks mugs/cups/quenchers, Target's limited-edition versions, people camping out in front of Target and then running - Black Friday style - to get them," a seller wrote on the Etsy discussion boards

"In turn, resellers are scrambling to cash in, which is fine, but some of them are being sold on Etsy. I have an idea though for a new approach Etsy could take," the seller wrote - "Let them in." 

The seller explained: "My idea would be to create distinct Etsy sub-shops: Etsy Handmade, Etsy Vintage, Etsy Craft Supplies and a new shop for things like Stanley x Starbucks Quenchers. Maybe they could call it "Etsy Discount" or "Etsy+.""

There were plenty of skeptics, such as the seller who wrote, "As nice as that would be, there still wouldn't be anything to keep all those bad actors from claiming their garbage is "handmade" or "vintage" (just to help their sales) and still swamping our categories with tripe. Because we know Etsy won't stop them."

Another seller who disagreed with the concept said, "Continuing to cheapen the site will do nothing to help legitimate handmade and vintage sellers here on Etsy."

One seller compared the concept to Amazon where they also sell their handmade goods: 

"Amazon manages to sell everything. Handmade has its own categories and application process, but my items are up there amongst the mass produced for shoppers to see and compare. I sell almost as much on Amazon with 20 listings as I do on Etsy with over 100 items.  

"The problem is that Etsy is still marketing itself as handmade, then we get annoyed when we find products that aren't. Also, search is terrible so handmade is lost amongst mass produced where as Amazon somehow manages to promote my items better.

"Agree that if they can't get rid of the resellers, they should at least try to differentiate listings."

Interestingly, the sellers who didn't think Etsy should open the door to sellers of mass produced goods didn't necessarily think Etsy has been successful in keeping those sellers out - most said they just didn't want the problem to get any worse than it already was.

One seller said hopefully, "Rather than creating separate sub-shops, if Etsy wants to allow resellers, they could just add another category, such as "Other". That might keep new resellers from listing in the vintage, handmade, and supply categories." But others were skeptical that sellers would be truthful and believed they would purposefully mis-categorize their items.

One seller pointed out that a seller of the popular Stanley cups had bought Etsy advertising for their listings to direct buyers to purchase the items on their own website ("Lol.. there is one I saw that says in their about in large letters and in their descriptions "Do not buy on Etsy! Go to our site for 50% off and free shipping!" But hey they bought Etsy ads..")

Another seller wrote, "You know what I would really like to see? Rather than offering an "Other" category, Etsy could create another site altogether and migrate everything POD (Print on Demand) and digital to the other site. It would make that whole area easier to police for IP infringements, as that would pretty much be all they would need to vet. I can dream."



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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Tue Jan 9 15:55:19 2024

So are they going to do this for every fad that comes along?  I say no. What is handmade about a cheap overpriced pink cup?  But of course we know that Etsy is no longer true to handmade.

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by: LDWCallsOut This user has validated their user name.

Tue Jan 9 16:39:03 2024

I agree with what Rexford wrote above.

There have been limited edition dated Starbucks mugs on Etsy since the products were introduced.  I mentioned a few months ago finding one just a few years old on page one of an Etsy linked curated feature for ''vintage glassware'' items.  The mug was ceramic, not glass, and it was from this decade (the 2020s).  Vintage (as well as Handmade, of course) is anything the seller wants it to be, with the okay of Marketplace Integrity since Summer 2015.

But I would love to see the Etsygirls work up a good head of steam about the idea of getting the Etsy staff to create some kind of a new subcat for any trendy pop culture fad that comes along.  I found a Rae Dunn 2023 Halloween item on Etsy this afternoon listed as ''handmade'' -- and the seller was all over how her price was a discount from the market retail price.  All the Rae Dunn listings need to get their own subcat as well.  What fun!

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by: Lisa This user has validated their user name.

Tue Jan 9 20:51:36 2024

since etsy wants to expand (with purchases like elo7, reverb, depop etc...

why not open a 2nd marketplace strictly for resellers and POD? This would perfectly position etsy to compete with redbubble.

But, the reality, etsy  is so far from what it started as... Good sellers are just leaving. maybe a separate site is too little too late.

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This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Tue Jan 9 22:08:08 2024

Being a hockey fan, seeing the title Stanley Cup Resellers kind of freaked me out.

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by: Stone Cutter This user has validated their user name.

Tue Jan 9 22:18:38 2024

*** The Department Store is dying ***

Here is some Interesting retail info….
The typical shopping mall is losing traffic as the typical consumer prefers to shop closer to home within “specialized retail stores “.

Macys department store is putting that theory into a test by creating smaller specialized storefronts within different neighborhood strip malls. Macys says that growth within a shopping mall saw annual growth of only 3%, while the the smaller specialized stores saw much better growth at 8%.

For many years, I’ve thought that Etsy should create individual websites for each of their categories, because Handmade, Vintage and Crafts have nothing to do with each other, which is similar to a crowded Department Store.

The old CEO, Chad Dickerson, was already developing a separate executable for Supplies & Crafts, but the new CEO Silverman dumped it when he took over Etsy. I think Dickerson was on the right path.

The Etsy website has no real specialized theme. Like the department store Etsy has gotten too big. I believe Etsy should definitely split the program into separate websites.

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by: Lisa This user has validated their user name.

Tue Jan 9 23:30:44 2024

Dickerson was never right about anything and is the worst CEO etsy ever had.


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by: Stone Cutter This user has validated their user name.

Tue Jan 9 23:39:17 2024

@Lisa

So that is your opinion. I saw Dickerson as a techie CEO who could not move Etsy forward because the financial crisis of 2007 took out Etsys business…which is why Etsy needed to go “Public”. Etsys tech was much better back than it is now. Back then “search” actually worked.  

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by: Stone Cutter This user has validated their user name.

Tue Jan 9 23:46:03 2024

@ Lisa

Dickerson also created “Pattern”, which could have put Etsy on the map as another Shopify, however, Silverman dumped that too. In my opinion, Dickerson was quirky, but had a much better technical mind,  

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by: Lisa This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jan 10 00:47:12 2024

you know as well as i do, pattern is just a money grab and is still in full swing. It's just another 15.00 bucks etsy pockets a month plus fees, for being a redundant etsy shop that is subject to etsy, if etsy shuts your shop down for whatever reason, you lose pattern too. You can do woo for 1/2 this depending on your plugins, and not be subject to etsy BS or compete against yourself in search engines. & pattern is all up to you to drive your own traffic to it. Even though you can pretty much list what you want, you might as well get a 'real'  website. Don't put your eggs in one basket.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Wed Jan 10 00:55:28 2024

Rae-Dunn-dant
Place a certain font on anything and sell it.

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by: Lisa This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jan 10 01:20:24 2024

I still don't know if that was genius or ridiculous

even worse, that stupid font is TMd.

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by: LDWCallsOut This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jan 10 12:07:49 2024

The idea of separating listings by the standards of the original Etsy determinations of handmade, vintage, or crafting supplies was rejected more than a decade ago.  At that time, Etsy corporate told the community that the typical Etsy shopper was seeking a certain kind of item, like a hat or some decor to hang on their wall, and didn't care who made it, or when it was made.  

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by: fifilapew This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 04:42:36 2024

First & foremost, Etsy MUST fix the $hit excuse of its so called 'search' engine. I no longer waste my time using this horrible platform  

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by: quirkyantiques This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 14:11:38 2024

Etsy needs to pick a lane. It either allows resellers of new merchandise or it doesn't. How can they allow fad items brand new to be resold and yet alibaba and Temu resellers not? Allowing the sale of this or tickle me Elmo or any other fad brand new junk item is a hard NO from me.

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by: Babs This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jan 11 20:22:16 2024

Etsy has not been handmade, vintage and craft supplies and hasn't cared for many years. They tell resellers how to get around the rules! Nothing new here.  

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by: dmg61 This user has validated their user name.

Fri Jan 12 11:27:36 2024

I sell loose gemstones and beads on Etsy.  Search engines are already questionable at best, and we already have plenty flea market plastic supplies on there. The next thing for Etsy to become a total flea market is allow new trendy stuff on there. At least for now I can still find nicely handcrafted things on there, but once you open the floodgates, it will just be another eBay where all you find is cheap junk.



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