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Mon July 18 2016 10:13:26

eBay Transaction Leads to Arrest - A Cautionary Tale

By: Ina Steiner

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A man was jailed for failing to deliver three cars after selling them on eBay - the kicker is that the cars were toys that he sold for a total of only 16 pounds (British currency), not real cars.

The buyer refused to pay shipping, and the next thing the seller knew, police were knocking at his door, according to a report in the Daily Mail.

The article details how police treated him like a hardened criminal. And according to a report in the Telegraph, "despite all charges being dropped and eBay themselves saying Mr Traynor wasn't at fault Police Scotland refused to apologise."

We rarely see cases where police get actively involved to that degree in cases of online fraud for much higher amounts. It's a cautionary tale - you never know who is at the other end of a transaction and what they might do if you don't cave to their demands.




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by: FeelingFroggy This user has validated their user name.

Mon Jul 18 20:10:22 2016

Willing to bet that there is a whole lot more to this story than what is being told.

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by: Gemz This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 00:06:34 2016

I'm with Froggy on this one, A LOT more story not being told!

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by: mindelec This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 01:21:46 2016

while i agree the police massively overreacted.  the question i have is did the seller refund the 16 pounds he was paid?  from the article it sounds like he didn't.  

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by: Biglouis This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 03:59:32 2016

So why has the scumbag buyer not been named and shamed?

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by: Tiffee Jasso This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 04:07:05 2016

Different countries have different laws. I would like to know what the warrant was issued for? Auto theft or Online money theft? Had to be some type of theft, I would think, to get treated that roughly. If it was auto theft then Ebay should make sure they suspend that buyer for life.  

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by: Miniac This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 08:22:54 2016

I would have expected this to happen in the USA, not the UK.
The world is in a downward spiral.

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by: mindelec This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 10:10:20 2016

if he kept the first 16 pounds, he was probably arrested for mail fraud or whatever is similar in the UK.  

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by: toyman This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 10:15:20 2016

Heck, I wish it was more like that over here. On more than one occasion I have been bilked by sellers on online auctions, like Auction Zip and Proxi-bid, winning an auction and then not having it shipped or not shipped as described (read - broken).

Say what you want about eBay (and I'll agree with most of it...), at least they make their Sellers actually SEND what they sell. Auction Zip and Proxibid have no real oversite power and they can only scold the offending auction house...and we know how much good THAT does.

One was so egregious that I contacted the FBI for Mail Fraud, but they have way too much going on the do anything, so...too bad.

With so many classic auction houses looking to ad revenue by using Proxibid and Auction Zip to up prices, it has become a bit like the ''old wild west'', with very little law and order over what happens. (Seriously, you want a person to bid on an item in a box, when you don't show a picture of what is IN the box...!)

''Let the online buyer beware.''

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by: a_c_green This user has validated their user name.

Wed Jul 20 11:07:51 2016

> The article details how police treated him like a hardened criminal. And according to a
> report in the Telegraph, ''despite all charges being dropped and eBay themselves saying
> Mr Traynor wasn't at fault Police Scotland refused to apologise.''

Actually, if you read the entire report (either of them, the Mail or the Telegraph), you will find that in fact they did, after the investigation was complete:

> Chief Inspector Andy Hutton, who is responsible for Police Scotland's custody arrangements,
> wrote: 'I apologise unreservedly for any distress or frustration you have been caused.'

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Wed Jul 20 12:55:47 2016

Why did the seller do anything wrong here in any country????  The buyer refused to pay shipping!!!  As a seller I wouldn't ship the items either.  The buyer payed about $20USD but wasn't inclined to pay shipping.

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by: Volvo351 This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jul 21 22:33:25 2016

Clearly the Liar Buyer is the one who should have been locked up. If the item didn't have 'free shipping' then What TF did the buyer expect?

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by: BargainzBabylon This user has validated their user name.

Sun Jul 24 19:13:07 2016

I'll bet this buyer had more of a record than is being shown here. I've lived in the UK part-time - they're rough on thieves, but generally with good reason. I agree, there is more to this story than is being told.  



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