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Fri Feb 15 2013 15:29:01

Is Bad Advice a Problem on the eBay Antiques Board?

By: Julia Wilkinson

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We recently heard from a reader who said that misinformation and downright bad advice that can lead to pieces being damaged is being posted on the eBay Antiques Discussion Board. "Recently there has been a disruptive poster who seems to think it is good sport to not only interrupt any discussion with derogatory comments on other posters, but to also disseminate incorrect information and advice (his advice to newbies to polish sterling silver with Brasso is becoming legendary)," they wrote. 

Any number of his posts could lead an unwary reader to ¬Ä¬úcommit heinous acts against a piece and devalue it, if not outright destroy it, said the reader. But they also think this person has "alter egos," judging by the number of  recently created ID's of posters that agree with him.

On this Antiques Friday (hashtag #ABAntiquesFri on Twitter), we ask if you think misinformation is a problem on the Discussion boards? And, if you frequent the Antiques Discussion board, on that one in particular? And is it a problem on message boards other than eBay's, as well?

This reader adds that "it is not to big of an issue except that when refuted, he has others
posters' posts removed...Mind you, the removed posts usually contain factual and HELPFUL information, as requested by the original poster." Many of the more knowledgeable posters have left the board as a result, and no longer share their expertise, they said. Nor is this the first Board that has been terrorized, they add, and it goes beyond the "usual" conflicts the board tend to see.

"I know that this is small potatoes in the grander scheme of things, but DARN! The Category Specific boards enable sellers to investigate items and maximize sales. Can't
be done if you have ruined a George III salver with Brasso," said this reader, who says they find the exchange of knowledge, experience and expertise on the boards "one of the last pleasant segments of utilizing eBay."

Do you agree that bad advice crops up on the eBay boards, and if so, is it being handled correctly? How should it be handled, say, if there is a disagreement as to a topic such as what type of polish to use? Post a comment here!

Meantime, if you have a topic you'd like covered or an expert you'd like to recommend for "Antiques Friday," please email me at julia@auctionbytes.com.




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This user has validated their user name. by: Ric

Sun Feb 17 01:28:28 2013

Bad advice can be found on many eBay discussion boards.

eBay various antics, unannounced system changes, and all too frequent policy changes have made a segment of sellers desperate for sales across many eBay categories.

I would not be surprised to find a handful of sellers who deliberately place bad advice on discussion boards in an attempt to see sellers who may not know better heed the bad advice and eliminate competition.

Given that eBay has made many underhanded moves to eliminate sellers from receiving corporate profit reducing discounts, it is not surprising to find sellers who employ similar tactics to help eliminate their competition.

eBay management made a conscious move to break down the once thriving buyer - seller community and pitted each against the other with one wrong headed policy after another. These policies were created and imposed by management who has no experience as a buyer or a seller on eBay.

In my opinion, it was only a matter of time before eBay sellers imitated eBay's horrendous examples, adapted and applied them in a desperate attempt to kill off their competition.

One sure fire way to eliminate new sellers who some might be threatened by is to give them advice which results in that seller destroying the merchandise they have to sell. It would appear that this/these sellers have learned from the best - eBay's own management.






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by: spirit-of-shiloh This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 03:40:24 2013

So true. This poster is down right dangerous and must have an IN with the mods as his/her posts are reported but NEVER are removed yet a lot of us get our posts pulled? This poster will post sometimes a dozen ridiculous posts to one thread and even though the posts are disruptive he/she is FAVORED by the mods and this terror's nonsense remains? Yes he/she tells newbies to use BRASSO on antique sterling and gives other false advice. Also this poster will antagonize certain posters,me for one,then report our/my response to him/her. He/she is a detriment to the boards and practically killed the Art board.:(  

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by: StClare This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 09:34:23 2013

Its a shame that the person who brought this to your attention didn't mention how disruptive, rude, somewhat incoherent, and down right NASTY this poster is.

His/Her habit of e-mailing other posters asking if they got their ''message'' yet BEFORE their posts have been deleted is not only annoying, it seems to underline his/her access to eBay in some way. And trying to get any of his/her nasty or personally insulting posts removed is futile.  

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by: morning*glorious*one This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 10:17:04 2013

This poster has got to be one of the rudest people I've encountered on the boards. His deliberate misinformation, his rude comments to other's items and his other posting ID's agreeing with himself have made it nearly impossible to garner any sort of knowledge.  Or to give any kind of advice without fear of having your post pulled for the stupidest reasons.  He has also invaded the Jewelry Board with one of his ID's.  He grows like mold.

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by: persona-non-gratin This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 10:57:46 2013

If the board moderators were fulfilling their duty equitably this person would have had posting privileges removed permanently, they have not. The ebay boards are moderated by Liveworld, an organisation that has all the transparency associated with the former KGB.I have reported this person for basic breeches of policy such as overtly racist remarks, those remarks remain while innocent posts that this person disagrees with are removed, which raises the question, just who are the board moderators ?

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by: Being.A.Zombie This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 11:34:45 2013

Regarding the comment from the article, ''The Category Specific boards enable sellers to investigate items and maximize sales.'' That is just one function. The boards used to be a nice place for sellers, buyers, curious collectors, etc. Now it's about a small group of arrogant people calling it their online home and treating virtually everyone else like garbage.
I really do hope eBay shuts those boards down. I read them from time to time and for years now it's been the same group up to their same antics. I stopped posting helpful information on the boards a long time ago.
BTW, the disruptive poster is well known among you!

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by: GDM This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 16:16:11 2013

This guy is a Psychopath, he posts 24/7 on the Antiques board giving false misleading information on almost every subject, he has being doing it since 2004 and ebay allow him to do it.
Anyone else he reports usually get a 7 day suspension after a few moderated pink slaps, but this guy is like Teflon Tony, ebay are frightened of him or they are on his side.
It stinks, he should be named and shamed.  

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by: GDM This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 16:18:26 2013

He is even listed under Badbuyer.org. as ''deepseashadow''
http://badbuyerlist.org/buyer/671353e0a89a48e0576
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by: LadyElizabeth This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 16:46:54 2013

15 comments on one thread since last night, by this person. This is typical of the way he/she operates, and it's been going on for over a year, on the Antiques Forum.

1302 posts, so far, this year, and none of them helpful; most of them derogatory.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Sun Feb 17 21:01:24 2013

People like this are on every forum on Ebay to some extent.  On the Feedback forums there is a small group of members that band together and dole out incorrect and bad advice on a regular basis.  

It's a sport for some.  They are so miserable in their own lives that they just love to venture out and see how many people they can hurt.  They think of it as a game.  They give no thought or regard to the damage they do.  The food they take off people's tables.  The financial damage that may take them a very long time to recover from.  Or even the loss of their Ebay account for bad behavior, because of the bad advice.

Yes, bad advice is all over the forum on Ebay and on here from time to time.  You need to make sure you do your own research and don't base an important decision solely on what a complete stranger has told you.

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by: mjr55 This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 22:58:16 2013

Agreed with Marie....bunch of toolbags on the forums. They seem to be nicer and a lot more educated on the Powerseller forum.  

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by: Postthoughts This user has validated their user name.

Sun Feb 17 23:49:51 2013

I have reported this persons posts to ebay at least 50 times as harmful and purposely misleading and ebay does not remove them.
There is no way to contact ebay other than through the useless ''report this post''.  So many people have complained and ebay, in typical ebay fashion, doesn't give a dam.  

It would be great if you could contact ebay and find out why so many people, reporting the same person for the same reasons are being ignored and this harmful person is allowed to continue.

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This user has validated their user name. by: askalice59

Sun Feb 17 23:58:15 2013

Mjr55 ''They seem to be nicer and a lot more educated on the Powerseller forum.''

The Powerseller forum was not always so nice. In fact it used to be downright dangerous. I think they all learned a lesson some time ago and all the bad weeds were pulled.

As for why some get to run those boards unchecked-I tend to think some of the problem people are bored eBay employees.    

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This user has validated their user name. by: Marie

Mon Feb 18 02:30:24 2013

I like the Powerseller forum, but I rarely hang out there.  Obviously you have to be PS to post there and that leaves out a whole lot of great people that may have great things to offer or need some help.  So I tend to me on Seller Central the most.

By the way, reporting a post only does so much.  Remember that report goes to LiveWorld as they monitor the threads.

I've only done it a couple times, but when I perceive someone as really really really getting out of hand, I call Ebay.  And the couple of times I felt compelled to do it, Ebay stepped up to the plate and did something about them.  

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by: feline This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 18 02:56:22 2013

but it also leaves out a whole lot of posting ids  planted to  wreak havoc

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by: out-of-the-attic-2u This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 18 07:05:43 2013

So why not get rid of him??
If he is causing all this terror block him over and over again.

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by: GDM This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 18 08:59:23 2013

The subject "deepseashadow" is commenting on the Antiques Forum  now about this very site.
Go to the Forum and look up the thread titled, "ebay antique board.. famous...or notorious...however you want to look at it"
You will see his nonsense inane repetitive posts.  

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by: comet This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 18 11:54:05 2013

I haven't been to the "Antiques" board for a looong time but I am on other Forums regularly and they ALL seem to attract whack jobs at one time or another.  And yes with multi ID's.  You can always tell.

I saw one who created an obscene ID name to BID on several very expensive items and then FAIL to pay (of course!).  BEcause the whack job didn;t LIKE some posts another ebay member had put up questioning the "judgement" of the whack job.   The seller didn't immed know that this had happened but he did contact ebay where they were not entirely sympathetic!  I do believe that they did cancel this ID and the sales but the damage--in several ways--was done.

And this person was also posting 24-7.  Under multi ID's but always obscene or beyond nasty--personal attacks on people they had NO idea about but would grab one little thing no matter how innocent and turn it into he!!.  

I reported this poster via phone  as did MANY other people.  As far as I know the poster has been off those threads for a while but I in no way think that they were STOPPED.  Why ebay allows this is beyond all rational thinking.  

And it does not surprise me in the least that these morons are allowed to get new ID's every day and to post the most vile things--it HELPS out in ebays WAR against sellers.  Ebay employee or not---they SPONSOR this terrorist.  

And just emailing or "reporting" posts WON'T HELP--you do have to CALL EBAY.  

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by: mjr55 This user has validated their user name.

Mon Feb 18 13:48:39 2013

@askalice59

I agree it used to be worse....I don't really hang out there...but it seems if I need a quick answer to something, I am able to get an educated response. I think when Ebay started to make the Powerseller requirements a bit stricter a few years ago...it seemed to get better because a lot of members were booted from the PS program.

The thing I always hated about the Ebay boards was the constant belittling by members. If you didn't have 100% feedback it seemed...you would be chastised as a horrible seller.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Tula

Tue Feb 19 13:33:44 2013

ebay seems to bring out the worst behavior in a lot of people. Sad to see things degenerate into such chaos and childishness.  

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