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Thu Nov 25 2010 11:03:42

PayPal Encourages Americans to Buy Direct from Chinese Sellers

By: Ina Steiner

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PayPal launched a new shopping portal called PayPal Shop Asia and encouraged consumers in the U.S. to buy directly from Chinese sellers, reminding them that its PayPal Purchase Protection program would keep their cross-border transactions safe. PayPal Shop Asia offers over 50,000 products from over 60 merchants in China that offer free shipping and guaranteed time delivery.

In the blog post announcing PayPal Shop Asia, PayPal writes, "So calling all smart, savvy American shoppers this holiday season - make your dollar go farther by buying your gifts directly from China this year."

PayPal said it has seen a 60% year-over-year increase in U.S. purchasing transactions from Chinese merchants - almost 40 percent of all sales from PayPal merchants in China came from U.S. buyers in the first half of this year, though it didn't break down those transactions into consumer versus merchants buying for resale.

The United States Postal Service is also helping U.S. consumers buy direct from China. In May, the USPS entered into a tri-lateral agreement with eBay China and China Post Express & Logistics Corporation to create a simplified shipping platform for international tracking and delivery of lightweight goods ordered by consumers in the U.S. from eBay sellers in China.

While announcements such as these may stir up protectionist sentiment among U.S. retailers and consumers, there is no question that a direct to consumer (D2C) model is taking hold thanks in great part to the Internet. Alice.com and theEssentials.com allow consumer brands to sell directly to consumers. This March BusinessWeek article describes the growing D2C trend, citing Vertical Web Media's research that showed direct sales by consumer-brand manufacturers grew almost 13% in 2009.

Asia is a big market for PayPal, but right now it's limited to cross-border trade with China. Encouraging Chinese sales could endear it to Chinese manufacturers and to government officials who'll be making the decision whether to allow PayPal to operate in the China domestic market.




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by: tekgems This user has validated their user name.
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Thu Nov 25 11:36:12 2010

> PayPal Purchase Protection

We'll see how it works in action. There is so much quality control issues that you never know exactly what you will receive nor if it will actually work as advertised. Since Paypal does not determine the functionality of a product, I am not sure how much "peace of mind" purchase protection really provides. The devil is in the details as they say.

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by: Rick1313

Thu Nov 25 12:02:38 2010

On asterisks and fine print...

PayPal's announcement, by Anuj, keeps on referring to all the free shipping and guaranteed delivery times that the China sellers give to USA-based buyers.

But look at those asterisks and the associates fine print at the bottom of the announcement.

''TERMS AND CONDITIONS APPLY''.

You have to go onto the China seller's website (or service provider) to find out if, indeed, the advertised items are unconditionally with ''free shipping'' and ''guaranteed delivery times''.

It is not as black and white as PayPal is making it out to be.

These ''terms and conditions'' are not allowed on eBay.com or eBay.ca.

If you are advertising ''free shipping'', then it is exactly that and no other terms can contradict what is being offered.

Same with their guaranteed (they call estimated) delivery times that they have now imposed on sellers using eBay.com.

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by: Rich

Thu Nov 25 12:52:04 2010

This move by Ebay is sickening.  Best solution is to buy local or on Craigslist whenever possible.  Have a nice Thanksgiving

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by: JanetLee

Thu Nov 25 13:02:36 2010

Reminded of my fathers trip to China (I have a brother who lives there). They were at a flea market and Dad was contemplating buying an old looking beer sign. My brother asked the old woman selling it if it were new or old and she said "it is whatever you want it to be".  Buyer beware!

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by: Scott

Thu Nov 25 13:56:50 2010

I still sell on eBay occasionally. I never buy. This is one reason why. Ebay is increasingly un-American. Ebay used to be a place where average Americans could make good money. Since about 2006 it has been selling out the small seller for the large, nameless, faceless mega-merchandiser who is most likely, and quite literally, un-American.  Ebay/PayPal does very little to police the policy violations of junk peddlers from China, but they will crack down on you and me, in downtown Springfield, real pronto.  To think Meg Whitman and the rest of her snake-toungued ''conservative'' cronies like to wrap themselves up in the flag and act like they actually give a $#*% about their fellow Americans.  All they care about is THEMSELVES.  Nothing personal, JUST business.  Meanwhile, the majority of the American public will continue to cut their own throats on the blade of this cheap, Chinese knife.

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by: Just a Seller

Thu Nov 25 14:25:40 2010

While buying from a Chinese seller (or any other nationality for that matter) sounds good to me I find it to be extremely alarming to see how ebay encourages buyers to buy from some and discourage buyers from buying from others. This control ebay is gaining over clients' sentiment by using the Best Match engine or by announcments as the one quoted by Ina is what bury us non diamond sellers.

What a shame !!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Anonymous Annie

Thu Nov 25 16:40:24 2010

One word: DISGUSTING!

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by: Patricia This user has validated their user name.

Thu Nov 25 16:43:51 2010

Buy American?  Tell me where to look for it these days - American made products seem to be rare as hen's teeth!  These fat cats who try to send buyers to other countries - where do they intend to live when this country goes down!!!

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by: Debra

Thu Nov 25 17:05:12 2010

"These fat cats who try to send buyers to other countries - where do they intend to live when this country goes down!!!"

The intend to live in Asia after they sell out the American people and have a big house, driver, maid, cook, nanny and gardener, all for what would be considered pocket change to them in this country.

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by: Digby
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Thu Nov 25 17:05:20 2010

"Buy American?  Tell me where to look for it these days - American made products seem to be rare as hen's teeth!  These fat cats who try to send buyers to other countries - where do they intend to live when this country goes down!!! "

I'm with you Patricia, where will they live and where will they get their money from.

There needs to be another major crisis to force some real action.
China must be forced to let their currency float. They are killing many other countries as well.



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by: Troglodyte

Thu Nov 25 19:56:54 2010

Many gazillionaires are buying homes and property in Dubai and those surrounding small emirates in the westernized Middle East who aren't ruled by Sharia law.

They've been doing their main banking offshore for years primarily in Switzerland and to a lesser extent in the Caribbean.

Most of us have absolutely no concept of how much differently the rich live.

Do anyone seriously believe the Diamonds like Best Buy, buy, toysrus etc. are subject to the same and ebay policies and PayPal holds the rest of us are?

I've just crossed another retailer off my list, and I'll be stopping in there next week to tell the manager why I'll no longer be spending any more money in their toy store.

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by: Yada

Thu Nov 25 20:26:43 2010

Guaranteed delivery times …IMPOSSIBLE
We mail everything from Asia (Not China) and delivery times vary massively anywhere from 7 days to 60 days (with 15 days as average).

A nice little example that I bet almost no Americans are aware (and NO word on eBay)
There is a currently until 8 Dec a 423g packet weight limit to the US by ALL Worldwide postal delivery; all blamed on the terror guys.

Australia post will accept packets over 423g BUT you have to pay $9 security surcharge and A delay of AT LEAST 48 hours (at mailing point) to process the special packet???????

Thanks for keeping US Buyers updated eBay


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P
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how many eBay seller are currently restricted due to the new idiotic DSR limits, We have 1 account restricted ..with 4.9, 4.9. 4.9 4.8 …no disputes ever…no claims ever…no negs ever…just one neutral.

eBay block your account with an Alert saying “we have noticed some suspicious account activity………””  looks like the next round of seller culling has already started

Thanks God We opened an Amazon Account last month, it's like a breath of fresh air


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by: eBays Angels

Thu Nov 25 21:12:30 2010

All the fake products you hate to see on eBay, now direct from the evil source in China!

eBays Angels
Mgmt team like a gang, minus the bikes

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by: Sick of Chinese eBay Sellers

Thu Nov 25 22:45:18 2010

This move is a real discouragement to me as a full-time eBay seller. One of the biggest problems with eBay is that the system is clogged with counterfeit/knockoff merchandise from China -- and no one at eBay seems interested in applying the rules to these sellers. They run their listings for their knockoff Major League Baseball items (for example), and eBay doesn't do a single thing about it. If the Chinese sellers' feedback eventually catches up with them, then they simply open a new selling id and continue on unabated. Meanwhile, US sellers are hounded for the most minor policy violations.

eBay is losing the battle for many, many reasons - but #1 on the list has got to be the lack of trust. Lack of trust that the item you buy is authentic and/or licensed. Lack of trust that the seller is legitimate. Lack of trust that you will actually get the item you pay for.

And now - instead of eBay sweeping out the illegal Chinese counterfeitters, they are ENCOURAGING people to buy from them. Absolutely SICKENING!

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by: walter

Thu Nov 25 23:49:57 2010

Well maybe if we buy tons more Chinese junk we will make the Chinese rich enough to become the worlds richest super power and we will all be lucky enough to have our children work in factories for pennies a day and live in poverty.

Our people, our government and our GREED for cheap trinkets has practically pushed us there already. The U.S.A. is full of CEO's like Donoloser. Corporate Robin HOODS steal from everyone and keep it all for themselves.

Until we all STOP buying made in China merchandise, it will continue to get worse in the good 'ol U.S.A.

They won't even accept more exports from us, but here we have greedy American companies like Ebay willing to sell out their first born for a buck or two.

Walmart started out with mostly made in america merchandise and now it's 99.9% made in China.

Chinese people are intelligent, hard working people. (even though they do slave out their children)

Americans have become spoiled, feel entitled and the entire country is RIFE with corruption at every level.

For an American company to push foreign made product in a time where America is feeling like a third world country more and more everyday with an unemployment rate that continues to grow is just plain disgusting.

Free trade should be equal trade to keep the balance. You don't sell our product we don't sell yours. American business wants to manufacture overseas and import here then they should have to PAY UP BIGTIME!

Just one example, one country...Korea was allowed to import and sell over 750,000 vehicles in the U.S. last year. Americans were only allowed to import and sell 7,000 in Korea and recently declined Obama's request to accept more. WHAT?
Well then how's about they import nothing then?

Wake up AMERICA and stop the junk from coming in. Boycott the American businesses that cater to this pillaging of America before it's too late.

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by: kozersky

Fri Nov 26 00:22:07 2010

''The United States Postal Service is also helping U.S. consumers buy direct from China. In May, the USPS entered into a tri-lateral agreement with eBay China and China Post Express & Logistics Corporation to create a simplified shipping platform for international tracking and delivery of lightweight goods ordered by consumers in the U.S. from eBay sellers in China.''

How about the USPS helping U.S. sellers with international tracking and delivery of lightweight goods to global destinations? U.S. sellers could use some help also. Currently, the USPS does not provide U.S. sellers economical shipping that is safe and reliable. Apparently, it is easier to help the Chinese seller.

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by: kw

Fri Nov 26 00:33:39 2010

This is painful.  Ebay was built by small sellers and became wildly successful.  Now ebay is destroying small sellers, courting big box stores, and selling out to China.  Talk about the death of the American dream!

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by: bobo belinsky

Fri Nov 26 00:35:38 2010

I'm not really a fellow to go all patriotic and buy American simply because it IS American--I owe it to my family first that any purchase I make to be as prudent as possible to maximize the value of my expenses.

Doesn't mean I won't buy American rather than Chinese--but if the measure of quality and price I seek is evidently superior from one country's seller rather than another, I'll choose the 'better' item. If all things are equal, I'd probably go with local or American.

That being said, seeing eBay encouraging purchases from China is rather dismaying; not so much because they're Chinese items, but because they're displaying a simple preference for a single segment of sellers which...hey; further erosion of the illusion of a level playing field.

No matter what they say, it ain't level--the only level that's even is that we all have the same chance to be successful enough to realize eBay's proferred advantages.

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by: As it Is

Fri Nov 26 01:28:39 2010

I find it amazing that so many are complaining, you are forgetting one big fact, eBay is not just in the US.
What about all the millions of eBay buyers and sellers registered across the globe on NON US accounts?
This is also a massive fact eBay themselves are guilty of, without the Global accounts eBay would have been gone years ago, it is these sellers who pay the FVF and Paypal fees , much more in worth than just the US seller members

I think both eBay INC and the US registered members need to take a long hard look at who actually generates eBay INC  profits…it’s not in the US

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by: Jessy S.

Fri Nov 26 01:58:11 2010

''As it is'' is blind.  While I do concede that eBay is a global company with sellers internationally, the sellers that are being helped are from China and Asia.  It is these sellers that are producing cheap knockoffs that happen to be nothing more than junk.  AKA, you buy something at 8 AM in the morning and it is worthless by the time you get assigned a report at 3 PM.

The Asia people do their best to find the unsuspecting buyer from the United States who might be looking for a vintage Coca-Cola sign.  What happens is that the buyer might buy the sign and it is made of lead painted silver on the back with lead fumes while passing up the real thing offered by a seller in Oklahoma.  Months later his girls die because they have been inhaling lead for a few months.  The next thing you know, there is a massive recall, and the United States and China are in a stand-off because of eBay policies.  How bad is this stand-off?  How about, the first nation that blinks, starts World War III.

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