AuctionBytes Blog
Covering auctions, collectibles and marketplace selling.

AuctionBytes Blog The AuctionBytes Blog has been giving a voice to online merchants since its launch in 2005. Named one of the world's top 30 blogs in 2008 by "Blogging Heroes." Weigh in with your thoughts on the joys and pitfalls of selling online.
Thu July 16 2009 16:57:05

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

By: Ina Steiner

Sponsored Link

eBay surveyed sellers on the appeal of new designs to View Item Pages that go much further than the one it rolled out this year. As described in today's AuctionBytes Newsflash newsletter, two new designs under consideration would limit sellers in what information they could include on the product description pages and where the information could be placed.

Many third-party developers make a living selling templates and galleries to eBay sellers. If eBay limits sellers to using its own, standardized template, this could jeopardize those businesses. However, as stated in the article, we are not privy to how many versions eBay may be testing, or how far along in the development stage eBay is with an Item page redesign. eBay might also make exceptions to who would be required to use a new Item page redesign.

The standardized design - some might say sterile compared to current eBay pages - looks more like a listing on Amazon.com than a traditional eBay listing.



eBay is set to make an announcement this month about major changes coming to the site in September. But given the scope of the redesign under consideration, it seems unlikely eBay would be planning to roll out such a change in the fall.




Comments (85) | Permalink

Readers Comments

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Karma

Thu Jul 16 17:08:46 2009

Great.....

So now ebay not just kicks small/medium sellers, making a living selling on ebay, to the curb.... but also "third-party developers making a living selling templates and galleries to eBay sellers".

I been selling on ebay for the past 10 years and NEVER EVER used there templates / photo hosting... because they were/are horrible!

Did I read right, IF they enforce it than only one - 1 - photo ???

Oh sure, that will make the buyers want to buy....

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

This user has validated their user name. by: Ina

Thu Jul 16 17:14:21 2009

It's one photo per section of the customized sections, which would be in addition to the main photo. Not clear on how many sections a seller can create, but the sample version used three. It actually isn't really clear on how many photos a seller can include.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: eBuyer Feedback

Thu Jul 16 17:30:16 2009

Isn't this kind of the way Squido does things?  Except they don't tell you what you can can't put in each section.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: someone

Thu Jul 16 17:34:07 2009

Next they will be telling us how to flush the toilet

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: 2010 or Bust

Thu Jul 16 17:34:22 2009

Well, this would fit in with what JD and the Nappa crew "think" people want, but is one more step in making eBay a second rate Amazon.


What a disaster this would be -- no more detailed photos or giving the extra info our customers love about our listings!

Ina - can you provide larger JPEGs of these samples?

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: 2010 or Bust

Thu Jul 16 17:35:41 2009

Oh, forgot to mention that eBay listing software has always been the very WORST out there - this is why 3rd party vendors exist!!

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: cathy

Thu Jul 16 18:08:24 2009


While they're at it, why don't they make electronics the only category on eBay!! This is crazy for the bead/antique/artifact categories.... oh and 'perfect' for the vintage jewelry and clothing categories!!!  Insane.  Let's move.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: L

Thu Jul 16 18:10:09 2009

There they go again: ... tweak, tweak, tweak the pages .... change, change, change the rules and procedures.
Tinker, tinker, tinker. It's already broke, but let's break it some more.
 
This appears to be a desparate company that shoots from the hip, with little advance planning.

Their time would be better spent addressing the real problems that bug buyers and sellers, and quit tinkering with the web pages at the whims of MBA Graphic Arts, I.T., or Marketing majors.  They should get about the business of UNDERSTANDING THIS BUSINESS.
Why was it a success before, but has been CONTINUALLY deteriorating over the past few years?

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Beth M.

Thu Jul 16 18:13:37 2009

Well, this is going to chase away more sellers yet again.  Part of the reason sellers use templates is to create a customized appearance. Sometimes it is only that site, sometimes it is to create uniformity across many platforms.  

I also design templates, so this will indirectly affect me as well, even though I no longer have an eBay store.

The big issue eBay originally had with multiple photos was bandwidth.  That is why places like Photobucket and their like were so popular. When sellers host their own graphics and/or photos, it really should not matter how many pictures they choose to use. It still brings buyers to the eBay site, and if they are viewing a seller page, they are also viewing eBay, with all their copious advertisements.

This is really sad - they need to just roll back a few yrs to what ''brought them to the dance'' in the first place, and allow the sellers to sell.  If they don't want the smaller sellers still (and to me, this is another step towards moving out the smaller sellers and showing preference to corporate users), then say so. They could be putting all this programming testing into furthering fraud protection and other things the SELLERS have asked for. Seems to me, the seller's opinions really carry no weight with eBay any more.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen

Thu Jul 16 18:13:53 2009

I have no problem with the, to some extent, forcing of a more standardised View Item page; many "amateur" traders have got no idea of how to present a legible message (large, coloured type in ALL CAPS, all centred, for example), to the point that I can't be bothered trying to read the detail of some auctions that may have otherwise interested me.

Personally, as a buyer, I am more interested in seeing more information, such as a bidder "shill score," that would help we buyers avoid the unscrupulous shill-bidding sellers that are presently out and about en masse.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Tamara

Thu Jul 16 18:17:57 2009

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, Lord Have Mercy!

Feedback manipulation, higher fees, paypal only, best match, and the list goes on and on.

This would be nothing more than generic descriptions for mass produced products made in China. Unfortunately, that's what most of the site now represents anyway.

This Donahoe character seems intent on running off each and every small seller who sells unique items.

It amazes me how much they've tinkered with, and totally screwed up this site. It's a real disaster. Whitman started it, and Donahoe's taking it to new levels of arrogance and ignorance.

Good riddance. I hope you and your new ebay rot in hell. Even if you didn't make more changes, the present ebay totally stinks.

IT'S THE ULTIMATE GENERIC HEADQUARTERS. PITIFUL! A wannabe Amazon. No wonder page views have dropped 32% in the last 12 months. I assure you of this: The stockholders can only be fooled for so long. They will catch on to the DISRUPTIVE MANIPULATION that has destroyed the ebay site I once loved so much!

I hope your golden parachute pulls you to the ground quickly when you fall.  

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: o.c.d.collectibles

Thu Jul 16 18:29:14 2009

That's why I don't shop on Amazon. That place is just as smathered with ads, junk, junk, media, flash, and no "design" what-so-ever.
Perfect for kids who buy CD's and download music, but for those of us who want anything interesting or artistic, go somewhere else!
In fact, that's what ebay is trying to tell you! What part of that do you NOT understand?

If you want to sell collectibles or antiques, you need to find a site that is geared to help you sell that, with a template program that will  show off your best assets. If ebay cannot do that, then you'll do best to move along.
If they don't care enough to hear your opinion, then that's your answer.

My theory still stands, the company will probably be sold off, and it will be a very neat, compact, threadbare, company with no loose ends. Paypal will be closely woven in, and there will be a few big sellers bound into the framework. No extras, no affiliates, no third parties, and a stripped down model that the next owner can fix up the way that they like it!


An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Daisy

Thu Jul 16 19:10:26 2009

It's just Ebay moving more away from the flea market image that had made them famous. They can't compete against Amazon. They're too dumb. The market doesn't need two Amazon's. But it does need an "Ebay" Original.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: On Lies and Secrets

Thu Jul 16 19:19:45 2009

I think this 'redesign' is bad for antiques, one of a kind, used and collectible items.  This type of layout works better if you are a manufacturer/retailer selling brand new, mass produced goods to a mass market.  I suspect this new format is an easy template for ''operation catalog''/large merchant sellers to just download their pre-existing product databases to the ebay platform with a few clicks.  I think this new format is likely to be ruinous for the small to mid-sized seller of unique and desirable goods. I think this ''redesign'' is an effort to make the ebay platform more attractive to manufacturers because it is easier for them to list and has nothing to do with what currently active buyers want or need from the site.

The downward spiral into irrelevance continues...

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: ebay the sinking ship

Thu Jul 16 19:22:41 2009

HEY FLEABAY!!!!!!!!!!

Bring it on. You people have really screwed up the auction site.

So I say bring it on. Who cares?????? Just gives the whiners and complainers more to bellyache over. The rest of us will just adjust and move on........

to a different selling site.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Mr Obvious

Thu Jul 16 19:31:38 2009

Apparently "disruptive innovation" still means ruining your own site while copying your competitor.

...Wannabeebay LOL

ebay is soo over and done with they should just close it down,  sail away now on golden parachutes and save themselves the stress.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Doug rock

Thu Jul 16 19:46:31 2009

WOW....

I been a seller for over 8 years.

I have been using my Frooition template for almost 2yrs now. If eBay prevents me from using it... it will be the straw that broke the camels back for me and I'll just join the 1,000's of other former eBay sellers and pull the plug on my eBay sales channel.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: chaz

Thu Jul 16 20:03:55 2009

On my current buying/researching visits to ebay (I'm mainly a seller) I found the sell item pages even now more of a distraction than a help.  They have so many other links and product ads that it is hard to see the actual listing.  A foolish strategy on their part, in my opinion, somewhat like loading their beasts of burden (sellers) to the back-breaking point.  Do they really think they can make enough money this way if the seller base continues to erode?  They should look at restructuring themselves to a much smaller company.  If they can lower their internal expenses, then they can make money by the current seller fees and not worry about all these add-ons.  As for the specifics of limiting seller creativity, yes they will do this and they won't stop there.  They have done nothing but change non-essentials for quite a while now while raising seller fees.  Maybe they should think about changing their technology so it works right, while they are in the change mood.  For example, I have an ebay store and sell mgr pro, which is supposed to allow me to track store categories in addition to the best sellers.  This has not worked right for some time, and ebay says they are working on it.  That's just one example.  

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Patricia

Thu Jul 16 20:18:26 2009

This all reminds me of a fellow I once knew.  He built an office in his home - set up a desk, phone, bookshelves, computer, fax on and on....but he had NO business!  He would sit at his desk for hour on end looking very busy and very professional...still, he had NO business.  So....when do the folks at Ebay stop knitpicking and redesigning this and that and get off their duffs and start doing what sellers pay them to do....get traffic onto the site!  Looks don't make traffic....design and redesign ad nauseum does NOT make sales!  From the way traffic dropped off for most of us - I'd say they might as well stop wasting time and energy over the designing and redesigning because they aren't going to need it!

By the way - does anyone know what happened to the ebayinkblog?  No posts since July 10 and I keep getting a warning from my antivirus over there that the site is suspicious.

An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates   An eBay Item-Page Redesign Could Affect Use of Templates

by: Ebay's Slow Death

Thu Jul 16 20:20:13 2009

@ On Lies and Secrets

I think you nailed it!  This is all about making it easier for the present and future Diamonds to just download a catalog of their inventory into an Ebay standard format.

When I read Ina's blog, I could hear the clock ticking for Small Sellers, including me.  Better get that stuff you need to sell up on Ebay soon, because they are making every effort to get rid of us.  Us little ''Gems'' are going to get steamrolled by the ''Diamonds''.  

It's coming to an end.......

Click to view more comments
1 2 3 4 5  [Next Page]


Login is required to post comments.
To sign in to leave a comment using your AB Verify User Name, fill in the form below. If you have not yet signed up for AB Verify, or if you'd like more information, go to the Registration Page
.

Login for AB Verify
Be sure and use your email address and password to log in.

 
Email:
Password:
 
 Forgot Your Password?
 Even though you are signed in with the AuctionBytes Blog, you will have to sign in to the EcommerceBytes blog. But you can sign in with your existing AB Verify info.