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Mon June 22 2009 09:08:45

eBay DevCon Gives Peek at What's to Come

By: Ina Steiner

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The eBay Developer Program blogged extensively during last week's Developers Conference. You can read the highlights on AuctionBytes Newsflash, and read eBay's full coverage on its Developer Program blog.

There was some interesting news about forthcoming changes that affect sellers. One change that will likely be welcomed is the ability for sellers to exclude countries they don't ship to on a granular level and to block buyers whose primary shipping or registered location is excluded.

In the fall, eBay will have buyer-seller communications go through the email messaging system: "all pre-sale member messages intermediated through eBay for safety." Last year, eBay had announced it would impose "Safer member-to-member email via anonymous email forwarding," and then went back and forth about its No Links policy. It sounds like next month we'll hear more on this topic.

eBay also plans to give Diamond PowerSellers who use the Large Merchant Services API information about Best Match factors that sellers can control to improve search ranking of their listings. What isn't clear is whether LMS merchants are getting the same data currently available to all sellers, or greater information that would further boost their ability to show up higher in eBay search results above smaller sellers.

eBay will also be letting these large sellers list in the auction format - currently, LMS supports fixed price listings only. (See more on this here.)

eBay was promoting its Selling Manager Applications "open platform" concept to developers. I expect we'll see developers eager to try it, as eBay promises them exposure to sellers. (One of developers' challenges has always been how to cost-effectively reach eBay users.) I'd also expect to see more Product Pages on eBay, as it was promoting the concept of catalog.

Next month, eBay will officially announce the changes that will roll out in the September release as part of its promise to give sellers 60 days notice before making major changes.




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by: scott

Mon Jun 22 09:49:55 2009

So now the diamond sellers who pay no fees can list in auction with no fees so they can start items lower than small sellers who pay high fees

And they will be given the map to best match on how to get ahead of all the small sellers in search(who pay all the fees)

Looking at their last 2 quarters and how poorly they have been doing as small sellers are leaving you would think they would want to keep small sellers around over sellers who pay no fees and giving them even more tools to screw over the small seller.

They just dont get it

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by: Rich

Mon Jun 22 09:54:59 2009

Communications from within the Bunker. Buyers and sellers of the world...we need to have a conversation.

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by: Ha Ha

Mon Jun 22 10:31:03 2009

Hurray for the dismond sellers. Won't be long and you clowns will be the only ones listing on fleecebay, then we will see just how long the Hole stays around.

Made my day. HA HA

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by: U.N. Owen

Mon Jun 22 11:24:00 2009

"all pre-sale member messages intermediated through eBay for safety."
Very creepy, and sadly, more of the same dysfunctional mania which has brought the venue to near-ruin.
One wonders which keywords they'll flag..

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by: Patricia

Mon Jun 22 12:10:45 2009

The runaway train still barrels down the tracks.  Donahoe has no choice now but to keep at it until they cut his golden parachute loose.  Just browse thru the categories and see how many listings are rolling off without bids.  The five "free" listings each month, the 21 day holds on Paypal, etc. are all desperate attempts to gather in more revenue - revenue that is missing from sales!  Donahoe seems to have forgotten that Ebay is online and in business to gather its fees from sales.  What a muddled mess Ebay has become!

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by: J

Mon Jun 22 12:18:30 2009

''all pre-sale member messages intermediated through eBay for safety.''

Safety my a**. It has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with controlling the sellers products. If eBay ever told the truth I'd be flabbergasted.

''One wonders which keywords they'll flag..''

The system has been in place in Europe for awhile. Any reference to a direct e-mail address is somehow blocked. eBay is instituting a mini 1984 system albeit 25 years later.  

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by: Hummingbird

Mon Jun 22 13:01:44 2009

How about focusing on traffic, eBay, instead of on catalog and finding? My sales are steadily dying.

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by: Phil T

Mon Jun 22 13:58:18 2009

There are simply too many changes on eBay, period, I'm sick of it all!

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by: The White Bonzuffalo

Mon Jun 22 14:57:24 2009

Well, no wonder folks are runnin to the ranch as fast as their horses can go!

The PTB at eBay just don't want the "little guys", and they're doin their best to ambush them at every chance.

Ya know, back in the day, folks like Donahue & Co. were rounded up & run outta town, at the very least.

When y'all get tired of the shenanigins on the bay, come on over to the ranch...
Bonanzle that is...

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by: Karma

Mon Jun 22 15:25:36 2009

@ The White Bonzuffalo

Been at the ranch, had 72 items in my booth, sold 2 items in 6 month.....

There are plenty of sellers on Bonanzle, but where are the buyers?

Listed the other 70 items on ebay and 50 of them sold within 10 days (auction style).

I still HATE what ebay has become. Hopefully "The Don" will be gone one of these days. Doubt though that the old ebay will ever be back...

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by: Patricia

Mon Jun 22 15:35:21 2009

Frankly I'm tired of hearing about Bonanzle.  I'm there too - 65 items in my booth - sold 11 in 5 or 6 months now and most of those came from buyers who followed me from Ebay.  My own website now outsells both Ebay and Bonanzle combined.  I'm tired of these venues that open and expect all the sellers to come and buy from each other or beg their buyers to follow them.  It doesn't work!  Charge a small fee and put it into advertising!

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by: Ann

Mon Jun 22 15:43:28 2009

Karma,

Unfortunately you are right! In nearly a year on Bonanzle with hundreds of items, I often find the only time I have any action there is to go in and delete the items sold on eBay that were listed on both. I've had maybe three sales in 9+ months there. I HATE that there aren't any real buyers anywhere but on eBay. Plenty of sellers are leaving for other sites like Bonanzle and others, but the buyers are leaving period. They leave eBay but don't follow the sellers to the alternate sites.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Ming the Merciless

Mon Jun 22 15:54:54 2009

"...Safer member-to-member email via anonymous email forwarding..."

Ming's Ebay Law #1:

EBAY LIES. ALWAYS HAS, ALWAYS WILL.

As for the five free listings when a seller uses the ebay's bloated SYI form, it's Don Horleone's sorry attempt to rope in new sucker sellers to fleece.

The announcement appeared in several paper and e business publications in the last week, and today ebay stock is way down as I write this.

Caball Street HATES any measures it views as diminishing revenues. In this case, however, the truth is that's a desperation move to recruit a whole new generation of sellers which The Ho hopes will eventually support the Diamonds' free ride.

The market's and media reaction proves once again how little insight these highly paid idiot analysts and media actually have into ebafia.

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by: Patty

Mon Jun 22 16:54:15 2009

''As for the five free listings when a seller uses the ebay's bloated SYI form, it's Don Horleone's sorry attempt to rope in new sucker sellers to fleece.''

Yea, how convenient they forget to mention those 5 ''free'' listings have a higher final value fee than the non-free ones. They are truly bottom-feeders.

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by: On Lies and Secrets

Mon Jun 22 17:28:28 2009

''eBay also plans to give Diamond PowerSellers who use the Large Merchant Services API information about Best Match factors that sellers can control to improve search ranking of their listings''

If diamond level powersellers cannot make the revenue they expect on ebay given all of the current advantages on the site that they enjoy, then they really need to face facts and realize that ebay is not an adequately lucrative venue for them and leave for greener pastures.  Every significant variable that the ebay corporation controls has been weighted overwhelmingly in their favor as it is.  Having more data about the (allegedly) ever-changing best match algorithm is not going to make up for the fact that traffic on the site is not what it used to be and that buyer quality is worse than it ever has been before.  

Ebay senior management should abandon all of the magical thinking in which they are engaged and face the cold, hard realities about the site.

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by: Phil

Mon Jun 22 17:58:35 2009

One thing I want to comment on, is all the "Go To Bonanzle" posts. The people that own Bonanzle must be on every message board, saying how it's great & how much they are growing, but they suck major dix as far as sales are concerned, the place is just a garbage heap of non selling items & no bidders!
Believe me, I wish another venue would rise to prominence, but Bonanzle ain't it! I mean, they don't even do the auction format, which would be essential for any startup site. We don't want buy it now's, we want auctions!!!!
Let's start calling out the Bonanzle cheerleaders, they are just as bad as the eBay cheerleaders, Bonanzle sucks! Believe me, there is no money to be made on that site!

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by: Diamond Haus

Mon Jun 22 18:03:19 2009

To be fair, Ina, eBay did say somewhere that all sellers would be given more information regarding best match placing, not just the diamonds using LMS.  I don't recall where I read it but it was somewhere on the eBay site.

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by: Daisy

Mon Jun 22 18:06:55 2009

I'm hoping that Alan Lewis of Auctiva might get something going in the direction of an Ebay-like site. Even Randy Smythe over at Buy could direct them into getting the flavor of Ebay going. Or Bruce the movie guy.

These venues just don't have experience in e-commerce and they need someone who really understands what Ebay was all about and will try to recreate it.

The model is there and someone just needs to replicate it and ADVERSTISE IT.

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by: Harriet

Mon Jun 22 18:16:07 2009

Do not forget about eCrater. I am on both eCrater and Bonanzle, Etsy too. Granted I've been on eCrater for quite a bit longer, but have nice sales there and it seems to be steady. I've had a few sales on Bonanzle and it is spotty. The other thing is that with Google Analytics which eCrater provides FREE I can actually see how many hits I get on any given day. Yesterday, I had 77 hits, yesterday on Bonanzle, I had 3.

I don't know why, both have Google feeds. But for some reason, the eCrater feeds work better.

eCrater is not all jazzy, but it is solid and steady and they are making nice improvements for sellers which are extremely helpful They are doing it slowly, but they ARE doing it.

On eCRater you can have 10 pictures, and the title allowed is much longer than that allowed on eBay. That is such a help.

They have also just added a very nice feature which shows 10 additional products from your store at the bottom of every listing, and the pics are a nice size.

Go there and look around. And think about buying from both places while you're at it :)

eCrater also has Google Checkout. I have found that about 80% of my sales there are done with Google Checkout. And of course, you can also use PayPal (different animal when out of eBay's arena), and paper payments too.

eCrater is totally FREE.

Bonanzle may improve with time, I don't think we should write them off just yet. They are new and still working on bugs. It is an easy site to work with and has some interesting innovative things. One nice thing is that they have bulk editing.

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by: PhilipCohen

Mon Jun 22 18:43:35 2009

“John Donahoe told developers that eBay is prepared to invest whatever it takes to enable the eBay platform to accelerate and adapt to market and industry changes. …”

Too little, too late, too arrogant, too disingenuous, to be of any use in aiding the bilge pumps; certainly of no use for the Q209 financials.

Can this turkey possibly survive another Xmas?

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