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Sun Mar 1 2009 22:15:20

eBay Germany Sellers Are Fraud Targets

By: Ina Steiner

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According to German watchdog group Falle-Internet.de, fraudsters continue to target eBay users. If someone uses the eBay "Ask the Seller a Question" feature to tell you there is a discussion forum where people are accusing you of fraud, do not click on the link and log in! Falle-Internet.de wrote an article in which it says sellers who are outraged at the insinuations when they receive such scam emails fall for the trap and actually log in - to spoof sites.

Once the fraudsters have obtained the seller's account log-in information through this phishing scam, they can use it to send fake Second Chance Offers (SCOs) to the seller's bidders and defraud them and also send out phishing emails through the eBay messaging system. Falle-Internet.de claim that eBay's security features actually aid the fraudsters in some cases. For example, they say, a non-winning bidder can't contact the winning bidder to verify the Second Chance Offer.

Here's a link to the Falle-Internet.de report. (It's written in German, you can use Google language tools to translate the page to English).

German newspaper Spiegel wrote about the report and obtained a response from eBay spokesperson Alexander Witt. From reading the translated page, it appears Witt blames phishers and sellers' use of easy-to-guess passwords.

Witt says in the article eBay catches account takeovers in most cases before the users know the account has been hijacked. A Falle-Internet.de representative told AuctionBytes, "In our research we examined more than 1000 hijacked eBay accounts in two weeks, not a single one was found by eBays T&S team without our report."

Users in the U.S. are currently discussing the problem of hijacked accounts (TKO) on the eBay.com discussion boards.






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This user has validated their user name. by: Ming the Merciless

Mon Mar 2 03:41:25 2009

Same ole ebay!

Instead of fixing one of ebay's biggest fraud/revenue generators, the infamous SCO, ebay blames the victim.

De rigeur for this arrogant piece of low class corporate trash.

Death to ebay corp. in 2009.
NEG MEG (Whitman) in 2010.

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by: ebay is doomed

Mon Mar 2 05:46:54 2009

Interesting. Ebay is NO help to sellers. I've noticed a huge increase in name/address provided by ebay and a DIFFERENT name/and or address for the same item provided by Paypal. we will ship to the Paypal address in most cases, and alert buyer of the difference addresses. Then we block them from future purchases. We do not want to get in the middle of a ebay/paypal screwup. Of course the seller will get the blame 100% of the time if a snafu happens.

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by: ebay=penny stock

Mon Mar 2 07:49:16 2009

It figures, Ebay blames the seller. How ignorant can they be. Ebay needs to get off its dead azz and get some programers that know how to program.

Ebay's downward slide continues. It is a sinking ship and there is no help on the horizon.

By next year it will be a Ebay Dead instead of a Ebay Live party.

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by: voodoo

Mon Mar 2 10:00:33 2009

The USS Goodship Ebay is sucking in water faster everyday.

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by: I used to like AuctionBytes

Mon Mar 2 12:38:12 2009

now it's just a bitchfest. all the haters have nothing else to do. sad.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Ming the Merciless

Mon Mar 2 18:48:09 2009

@ I used to like auctionbytes

Ebay has earned and continues to earn 99.99% of the critcism it receives and the anger directed at them.

So if you don't like the "bitchfest," why not spend time reading ebay's pristine forums and Brewer-Hay's blog instead?

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by: you people don't get it do you

Mon Mar 2 21:00:50 2009

disliking the pathological attitudes expressed in forums like this does not mean that one would readily accept the syrup of figureheads like brewer-hay.

listen to yourselves; you hate eBay so much that you just blather on ...

the company is screwed up. not wanting EVERY SINGLE POST here on auctionbytes to be a festering cespool of negativity does not make one a cheerleader.

There's room between the extremes. Apparantly, there is no longer capcity to understand that, and that's why I no longer like auctionbytes.

@Ina -- that's why you don't have dialogues here anymore. Those that aren't 100% sour can't stand wading through this garbage.

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by: Be that as it may ...

Mon Mar 2 21:03:31 2009

"Ebay has earned and continues to earn 99.99% of the critcism it receives and the anger directed at them."

Yeah, I don't disagree. What I do disagree with is those that have removed themselves from the eBay sphere entirely and still feel compelled to froth at the mouth at everything that appears on sites such as this one ... For God's sake, find something to do ...

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by: voodoo

Mon Mar 2 21:17:23 2009

@ be that as it may

Gee another one with a sore spot that got hit. You need a life.

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by: mindelec

Tue Mar 3 01:42:15 2009

i wonder if there is any connection between this and that all of the ebay phisher emails i have gotten recently have been in german.

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by: ebay is doomed

Tue Mar 3 05:21:11 2009

anybody selling on ebay is subject to scams and fraud FROM EBAY. Chargebacks that are not valid, listings taken down for no reason, fees that are extortion, payment options that are dracion, etc.

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by: Kal

Tue Mar 3 22:00:43 2009

OK, I'll say something nice.

Ina, I like your new picture!

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by: Ed

Wed Mar 4 01:44:21 2009

I assume that Ming and the other eBay haters are Americans who neither sell internationally, nor have had a holiday outside of the US in their lives?

(Dons fireman's suit)

There is a world of eBay outside the more commonly discussed Anglo/Euro sites where trading is free (no fees) and where there are vibrant marketplaces with little or no scams and adverse reporting happening.  Yes - think about that - eBay sites where people just get on with buying and selling on eBay without all the issues you all love to discuss.

Now if you'd all just get over your insular and xenophobia attitudes and look outside your own borders, you'd find eBay is still usable, still a channel for making profits, and FREE to use (other than PayPal fees).

Show eBay the future - list on their sites that offer zero insertion fees and zero final value fees.  Hammer them where it hurts most - simultaneously dropping their revenue, AND maintaining their costs by using their infrastructure.

Ina knows where I'm talking about, and probably knows how to do what I'm advocating, I'm sure.

Ed

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by: @Ed

Wed Mar 4 07:00:40 2009

Not gonna happen. Too many evil things that ebay did and continues to do, ebay haters like me would gag if we happen to stumble upon a foreign ebay site.
iOffer.com and Bonanzle.com are the wave of the calm future.

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by: o.c.d.collectibles

Wed Mar 4 19:28:38 2009

At the place where I am now selling, there are sellers from all over the world. No one has to stay at ebay any more. There are many places to go now, and the customers are everywhere! Anyone who still believes ebay is the only game in town, is living in the past. Wake up now!



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