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Tue Nov 10 2009 23:00:12

eBay Holds Model Trains Flash Sale - More to Come

By: Ina Steiner

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eBay is holding a 3-day sale in Model Trains that appears to feature products exclusively from one seller, Scott Griggs of Trainz. eBay had tried a similar promotion, called "flash sales," in the Clothes, Shoes & Accessories featuring Cole Haan products. That sale was controversial both because eBay was driving shoppers to one seller, and also because that seller was new and had only 22 feedback ratings (link). eBay is again driving traffic to one seller, though Trainz has 153,041 feedback ratings.

This week's Model Trains sale is part of a new initiative from eBay to reinvigorate the collectibles category. On the docket are semi-monthly Flash Sales in the collectibles subcategories including Comics and Sports Memorabilia; pages such as this one for collectibles; themed landing pages; as well as making changes to Best Match and Item Specifics in collectibles.

Expect more changes throughout 2009 and 2010. To recap, current promotions include:

- Three-day "Flash Sale" for buyers in the Model Trains collectible category through November 12 (link)

- Email campaign offering loyalty program members double eBay Bucks when they purchase in Collectibles categories (through November 16)

- eBay's current 2-week promotion for sellers in Collectibles (50% on Auction-style Insertion Fees in several Collectibles categories) through November 22 (link)





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by: On Lies and Secrets

Tue Nov 10 23:26:51 2009

IMO, 'flash sales' will not "reinvigorate" collectibles categories.  IMO ebay management does not understand collectibles communities or the purchasing behavior of many collectors.  These 'flash sales' seem to be a tactic better suited to new, retail merchandise that a vendor is trying to move quickly.  Many collectors do not exhibit the same buying behavior as mass market retail buyers so retail tactics won't work well.

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by: Lawrence A Dickerson

Wed Nov 11 00:33:58 2009

Along the lines of On Lies and Secrets comments regarding the behavior of us collectible buyers,when Best Match was in BETA the collectible buyers came unglued because eBay attempted to direct our scrutiny in a skewed direction.

We collectors scour the web,flea markets,garage sales,for sale columns in our papers and other media.I for one refuse to be told where to shop.Be it trains,stamps or glass ware,we buyers are highly selective in our purchasing behaviors.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Bill

Wed Nov 11 01:17:06 2009

Having been in the hobby/collectible business for many years (more than I care to admit) from having a few stores and running regular monthly shows for most of those years, the one thing that I am well aware of is that collectible buyers love to browse. They want to see anything and everything since they never know where they might find something that will spark their interest. They do not want to be told what or where to search.

Having a structured search is THE only thing that has killed the collectible business on eBay.

Pure and simple if eBay wants to re-invigorate the collectible market they need to one thing and one thing only:

GET RID OF BEST MATCH!

Bill

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by: Rob

Wed Nov 11 07:37:05 2009

How the hell does featuring a few handpicked businesses and a few handpicked categories reinvigorate the sales for all the products within that particular category.? It doesn't! It generates quick revenue for Ebay and the individual featured sellers, while the rest of the sellers offering similar/same products get screwed royally as buyer traffic gets funneled directly to the "chosen" few.

EBAY SUCKS!

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by: Jim S.

Wed Nov 11 07:38:47 2009

Nice. Feature 1 seller and leave everyone else in the dark. Maybe that's why I had only 1 $9 sale yesterday.

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by: fast freddy

Wed Nov 11 07:50:14 2009

Donnahole has lost total control of his senses.

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by: Rob

Wed Nov 11 07:57:54 2009

I don't envy all the vintage & new train sellers on the site that will see there sales, and final bid prices tank big time during this flash sale as ebay funnels most of the potential buyers interested in trains to one handpicked seller.

I've been monitoring all these flash sales and daily deal featured items pretty closely for quite some time, and no matter which product is featured for that given time frame, all the remaining sellers who offer similar/same products on the site suffer less page views, less sales and lower final bid prices during the duration of these handpicked products/sellers are being featured.

I despise the fact that ebay continues to undermine so many businesses while catering to a select group of handpicked sellers.

EBAY SUCKS!

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by: stryker

Wed Nov 11 08:18:08 2009


In the prevous post regarding ebays
attempt to re-invigotate the collectors marketplace they have so vigerously been destroying, most of the posters commented in some way or another on ebays lack of credibility .

 It is interesting to note how fast those posters observations have proved accurate. It seems ebay is continuing on the same track, Yes ebay is highlighting a single catagory, but with a single high volume seller, leaving the thousands of smaller to medium sellers  of similer merchandise to fell a sense of being left at the station

This seems to be yet another attempt the smash the collectables market into to same mold with the same rules as mass market merchandise, it simply does not work. In fact and no offense to  "TRainz" but most collectors avoid the larger collectable sellers, because we know we are not going to find any bargains

The Train flash is likey to draw impulse christmas buyers which is what ebay wants, which again has nothing to do with the collectors market on ebay

well, good luck to super-choo-choo guy . but to me this looks more like a slap in the face of the the loyal long term sellers than a hand held out in reconcilliation

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by: honeybunch

Wed Nov 11 09:05:42 2009

From bloomberg.com:

''EBay Inc. will concentrate on customers that want to export merchandize from China and will work with local companies to expand in the market, Chief Executive Officer John Donahoe said.''

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601102&sid=aDwBL.DOM1
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Dear
Collectibles Sellers -

We want you back!  You see, we're focusing on (read ''subsidizing'') mega-sellers of Chinese goods, and we need you to pay listing fees (because they don't) and FVFs (because their sh*t has lousy sell-thru).

As proof of how much we want you back, see how we're promoting this single large seller of trains?  Go ahead and list your valuable collectibles so you can support him along with the Chinese mega-sellers.

Your listing fees for all the stuff that won't be seen, and the huge FVFs for the few things you do manage to sell, along with the losses you'll take due the the valuables stolen from you via false SNAD claims...don't worry about those.  After all, it's in a good cause.

C'mon, Train Guy needs you.  The entire nation of China needs you.  Don't be selfish.

- eBay

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by: stryke222

Wed Nov 11 09:51:30 2009


How funny is it that when JD took control he espoused his dislike of the "flea market Atmosphere" of the site. yeah, it was like a flea market, a giant super-cool flea market where you could find anything and everyone was welcome, the kind of flea market where millions of people every day looked forward to seeing what was next and new.

Now JD has managed to almost completely transformed ebay into;...  are ready ??? .......... " A FLEA MARKET!!!!!!" yes just another flea market! but not the cool kind with the novice dealers selling their attic from their trunk, and real antiques and great deals, but the other kind of flea market, you know the crappy kind........ when the owner gets greedy and quadruples the table fees and all the cool stuff gets chased away and the place is full of discount tube socks and dvd knockoffs and cheap imported crap, and fak-tiques, and pickpockets,  and the aisles are empty and people stop bothering to show up

 You know, the kind of flea market that disappears , leaving a barren empty lot......

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by: Patricia

Wed Nov 11 11:31:32 2009

Donahoe is desperate and grasping at straws to try to make decent revenue for the holiday season.  He can no longer hide behind the economy....not since Amazon's amazing 29 percent increase in sales.  Instead of repairing his business model he's coming out with quick fixes that just won't make much difference.  Bottom line is there is far less real traffic on Ebay.  A LOT of the buyers have gone elsewhere....perhaps following the small sellers who are listing on other site.

I went on Ebay the other day looking for supplies for a new art project I'm starting.  I was shocked to find little to nothing of the things I needed.  I ended up on Etsy where I was able to pick up everything I needed.  DONAHOE - ARE YOU LISTENING?????

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by: Wake-Up!

Wed Nov 11 11:35:46 2009

eBay morons!

They would never would of have had to ''reinvigorate the collectibles category'' if they would have left well enough alone.

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by: Patricia

Wed Nov 11 11:37:05 2009

@Honeybunch - that's the absolute truth - very well said!

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by: g

Wed Nov 11 12:01:39 2009

And here are some details from the Trainz eBay store pages that I find interesting.  I wonder just how eBay selects its ''premiere'' sellers for these special deals.  Oh, wait, I'm sure it's based solely on their sales volume and how much $ eBay can get and to heck with the other sellers (who pay just as much in fees for less exposure!).

1 - Offer to purchase train items (does this avoid eBay sales TO Trainz?)

'' Thinking of selling your Trains?
We believe selling your trains comes down to how important the following three factors are to you:
1. Getting the highest price
2. How much work are you willing to do
3. How fast do you need the money?
Check out our We Buy Trains to help you through this difficult process. Let us know if you are interested in selling your trains in a group to us. Feel free to contact us at 866-285-5840 or email us, or fax it to us at 413-280-1546.

We Pay Finders Fees For Train Collections!
We are always looking for more trains to sell, and prefer to buy medium to large collections in the $10,000 - $100,000 range, or more, but of course will consider any size deal. If you are the first person to refer a collection to us, and we buy it, we will pay you a finder's fee! Our finder's fee is 2% of what we pay the owner for the trains. ''

2 - Threatens to leave negative feedback for NPB.  Just how would Trainz leave neg FB for their buyers when no one else on eBay can?

'' Payment Expectations:
We do expect you to pay us in a reasonable amount of time (10 days). We'll send you a second and then a final notice, if we haven't received your payment we will open a nonpaying bidder case with eBay and we may also leave negative feedback as well. Our goal is for both of us to have a positive, timely completion to our transaction.
Overall we hope that you will enjoy working with us! ''

3 - Offer to sell before listing on eBay?  Not sure just where they are talking about, but it sounds like somewhere other than eBay.

'' We do not currently have a complete inventory list of our stock, but we do offer most, but not all, items for sale here, for at least 24 hours before we list them for sale on eBay typically starting Sunday - Thursday nights on eBay without reserve. ''

Yes, these are a few signs that this is the top seller I would showcase on eBay.


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by: stryker

Wed Nov 11 13:38:07 2009


"G"

thank you for that post

So ebays newest focus, offers to buy collections directly on   ebay solicitations?

So the odd collector who might have posted his items on ebay instead bypasses ebay (no fees for ebay-paypal) and sells to the new focused seller instead?

This means :

1) no fees for ebay papal
2) Less selection of quality merchandise on the ebay site
3) higher prices, as a professional will expect top dollar for items sold whereas a collector will likely use auctions and generate more interest

WOW ! I am impressed with ebays reconcilliation attempts ~!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Philip Cohen

Wed Nov 11 19:06:11 2009

What it all comes down to is that these decision-making buckwits at eFay still have not got a clue; not the faintest idea of what most of the people who buy on eFay actually want—and that is sad!

But, contrary to all his MBA-leant instincts, the "eBafia Don" has decided, in his typically incompetent, deceptive manner, to court those “noisy” collectibles sellers again. Such utter desperation indicates to me that the October figures must be predicting that the Xmas quarter is looming as another—rightly deserved—disaster for eBay. It's a shame though that so many small business people have to be hurt at the same time.

The people in control of eFay may as will be headless turkeys, and one has to keep asking the question, how can the head turkey, Donahoe, possibly survive another Xmas.

Detailed comments start at:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=6502877

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by: Herb Rules

Wed Nov 11 21:57:03 2009

The statement that items from only one seller are represented is inaccurate. If you click Ina's link for the promotion and click on some of the "most watched" section for example, you get items from classic-n-scale, not Trainz. I think Trainz just happens to have a very large auction inventory, thus shows up more.

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by: Marvin

Thu Nov 12 06:41:22 2009

Now the google partnered with eBid, eCrater and Etsy the future place to look for antique and collectibles will be these sites, not ebay.

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by: ebay sucks

Thu Nov 12 14:27:57 2009

So happy that google did partner with ebid, etsy, and ecrater. Maybe now ebay will reap it just desserts for how poorly they have treated the great sellers in this country over the past 2 years!

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by: Et tu, Brute!

Thu Nov 12 16:32:33 2009



In all honesty I think these recent gimmicks are actually designed to lure in foolish sellers to list, thereby pumping up the coffers to float the boat longer.  And pacify the Board of Directors at eBay that all have PhD's in stupidity!

Or worse.  Indifference.

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