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Mon Sept 27 2021 09:25:59

Supplier to Provide Etsy with Seller Purchase Data

By: Ina Steiner

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Etsy is encouraging sellers to use packaging supplies from EcoEnclose, but the partnership between the two companies stipulates the third-party vendor will provide Etsy with details about sellers' purchases when they order through a special landing page Etsy shares with sellers.

Etsy didn't disclose the financial nature of the new partnership with the supplier but said it helps it attain its goal of reducing carbon emissions from shipping.

Sellers should look closely at the terms if they choose to buy items from EcoEnclose through the Etsy link.

When clicking through to the special landing page provided by Etsy, sellers must accept terms that include granting consent to having EcoEnclose share detailed information with Etsy about their purchases:

"By clicking Accept, you (1) confirm that you are an existing Etsy Seller and (2) explicitly consent for to EcoEnclose to share your Etsy Seller Name, email address, and order purchase history information with Etsy, Inc. and its affiliates ("Etsy") for research and marketing purposes. Etsy will use your data in accordance with Etsy's Privacy Policy."

Sellers can compare prices on EcoEnclose's direct website pages to see if there is a savings (and if it's worth surrendering your privacy).

In informing EcommerceBytes of the new partnership last week, an Etsy spokesperson did not call out the data-sharing provision. "With this launch, we're providing our sellers with the option to join us in our commitment to reducing the impact of ecommerce. Through a new partnership with EcoEnclose - also a seller on Etsy - we're helping U.S. sellers access and buy packaging made from responsibly sourced and 100% recycled materials that buyers can immediately recycle at home."

Nor did Etsy mention it on its announcement board post.

Of the packaging featured on the Etsy landing page on EcoEnclose, one was emblazoned with the Etsy logo. The description for the 6" x 9" padded mailer said: "Stand out of the crowd with Etsy-branded recycled padded mailers that showcase your eco-friendly values." Unit pricing for the mailer starts at 24 cents (it doesn't say how many you must purchase to qualify for that price).

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by: LDWCallsOut This user has validated their user name.

Mon Sep 27 13:05:58 2021

When I sold vintage items on Etsy years ago I always re-used clean and sturdy boxes and mailers from stuff shipped to me, or scored at various bricks and mortar stores where I shopped, as shipping supplies.  Mail ordering ''eco'' packaging -- AND HAVING IT SHIPPED TO YOU -- has an environmental impact.  Only a dumb bunny would believe this type of business purchase is ''eco friendly''.

I can well understand why Etsy wants info on who purchases these items -- they are Etsy's ideal customer (shop owner) because they don't get all that science stuff -- or any stuff that involves numbers.  Seriously, on one of my first visits to the Etsy Forums in 2007 or 2008, a seller said she was thrilled to buy supplies for her craft from various Etsy shops BECAUSE IT HELPED THE ENVIRONMENT TO NOT VISIT OTHER WEB SITES.  She hadn't a clue that purchasing supplies from, say, 5 different Etsy shops and having the items shipped to her was NO DIFFERENT than ordering from 5 different websites and having her purchases shipped to her.  In fact, it is exactly the same.  

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Mon Sep 27 17:08:43 2021

Data mining in an eco-friendly costume.  How….seasonal.

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by: fusgeyer This user has validated their user name.

Thu Sep 30 10:54:27 2021

As an Etsy seller, I'd run away as fast as possible from this joint venture. The privacy invasion into your business is huge. Don't integrate Etsy into your back of office. That is not where they belong. They are the front of office - sales venue. That should be it.

Here are some very serious questions to ponder before you decide to accept buying through their link:

1) There are plenty of other companies that offer unbranded recyclable shipping products that do not share your information with Etsy. I doubt this EcoEnclose is the least expensive choice.

2) This agreement allows Etsy to see all of your purchases through this vendor and all of your information. This includes purchases through this company that you may not be using for Etsy. What exactly is the information being provided to Etsy. Purchase volume, dollar amounts, shipping and billing addresses and info, contact information, payment method, terms of sale, order-shipping-payment dates. Is this really any of Etsy's business?

3) Etsy's privacy agreement/policy pertains to information collected on Etsy's website(s). There is nothing in that privacy agreement that pertains to information given to Etsy by a third party's website. Stating that the information from EcoEnclose will be handled in accordance with Etsy's privacy policy is not a legally binding agreement. They have to disclose all of that in EcoEnclose's privacy policy - when you click on the link and agree to their terms AND it must specifically state/name Etsy in order for Etsy to claim any sort of legally binding agreement with regards to privacy.

4) Is Etsy going to compare billing information from EcoEnclose, with what Etsy has on file for a shop? What if it is different? Can they use that to close your shop? What if you have difficulty with an EcoEnclose purchase? Does Etsy get notified? Does Etsy track your EcoEnclose purchase through the time you use one of the EcoEncloses products to ship and item from your Etsy shop?

5) Does Etsy have future plans to require sellers to use this packaging? Inquiring minds want to know.

Overall, no thank you Etsy. I already have eco-friendly packaging that you do not control. I do not want Etsy branded packaging. I prefer to brand all of my packaging with my company's brand.  

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by: Ophelia1 This user has validated their user name.

Thu Sep 30 10:54:39 2021

If enough sellers choose to participate in another Etsy crazy scheme, it will be forced down the throat on all sellers, exactly like the off-site ads.
No, thank you, Etsy.  

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by: Stone Cutter This user has validated their user name.

Thu Sep 30 17:36:30 2021

I checked out this site. Much of what this company sells are "custom boxes" for branding....which are not necessarily used as exterior shipping boxes. I found their site convoluted and time consuming in finding what I need.

I'll stick with Uline who gives me a fast way of finding what I need. And with Uline I use super strong boxes with a 200 lb. crush test for my jewelry and have never had damage with any shipment. Appears to me that Eco does not have the same box strength....so no, I don't believe this site can be forced by Etsy if it means sellers cannot provide proper boxes.

I think Etsy is trying to find ways to give sellers a more professional presentation, however, this will fail if personal information needs to be disclosed. It's creepy.

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by: Sierra This user has validated their user name.

Wed Nov 3 21:21:44 2021

I have been using a packaging supplier on eBay, however I was just notified by Etsy admin that I won a $100 gift card to EcoEnclose ... so it looks like I'll be trying their products!  



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