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Fri June 30 2017 00:02:53

Etsy Conducts Sweep of Black Memorabilia

By: Ina Steiner

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Etsy conducted a sweep of its site today, eliminating many Black memorabilia listings. A reader alerted us to the change that took sellers completely by surprise. The several threads we found on the Etsy boards contained conflicting information from members with no clarification or announcement from Etsy staff about what was allowed and what was not allowed.

A spokesperson provided us with the following statement when we asked what changes Etsy had made to policies that impact Black memorabilia:

"Previously, some of these items were allowed to be sold out of consideration for their potential historical or educational value. However, we have decided we will no longer allow these items in the Etsy marketplace. Regardless of age, demeaning depictions of people are not representative of the kind of values that we want to uphold in Etsy's marketplaces, nor the spirit of welcomeness and inclusiveness we want to foster."

The policy was all the more shocking to sellers because Etsy used to provide an image of a "Golliwog" doll as an example of what was allowed under its "Hate Items: Items that Promote, Support, or Glorify Hatred." Etsy captioned the image of the listing on its policy page, "Example: Vintage Golliwog Doll - Black Americana History."

Language from the previous version of the Etsy Policy:

Examples of What is Allowed:
We tend to allow items that have educational, historical, or artistic value, but we know that even those items are subject to a variety of valid and sometimes conflicting interpretations. Recognizing that there may be no consensus on their educational, historical, or artistic value, the following items are generally allowed on Etsy:

Vintage Black Americana items, such as "golliwog" dolls (but not newly-created items or PDFs of patterns)

You can find the new policy here.

One of the EcommerceBytes readers who alerted us to the change in policy and enforcement wrote, "Etsy is giving listing fee refunds, which is unusual. We (vintage team members) cannot fathom why Etsy did not notify sellers first and give them a chance to remove the listings rather than delisting them."

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This user has validated their user name. by: Ihatethebay

Tue Jul 4 12:35:12 2017

Etsy is based in New York City, that's all you need to know. NYC is the epicenter of Leftist lunacy for the east coast.

By the way, for all you reading this who are shocked at what Etsy did, this is called "political correctness", or more correctly: "Leftist hate speech".

We are in a civil war and have been since the late 1960s.

Get educated, start with Prager U videos on youtube.

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by: Noneya This user has validated their user name.

Tue Jul 4 19:00:54 2017

Maybe Alex Jones can start a website to sell all this high dollar ''Black Americana''. I'm sure he'd also lift the leftist commie policy against calling any slightly used item ''vintage''. It could be the best site ever, think of the built in buyers! And you you leave all the special snowflakes and their prissy modern sensibilities behind. Yeah.. it's Obama's fault if you really think about it.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Wed Jul 5 14:19:46 2017

Flyingchilders says "They will allow every sort of filthy, obscene, perverted listing as long as it favors a deviant, anti-white, anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-straight heterosexual lifestyle."

Filty, peverted, deviant, anti-straight heterosexual lifestyle?  Homophobe much?  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Wed Jul 5 14:30:11 2017

Ihatethebay says "We are in a civil war since the late 1960s"

You actually sound like you are still in the civil war of the early 1860s.

The level of racism, white supremacy and homophobia on this thread tops anything that I have ever seen on ecommercebytes.

I think the reason that we have political correctness in this country is because it is badly needed.

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Wed Jul 5 17:55:26 2017

@Rexford I agree with @Flying Childers and I am just find with gays and am certainly not a homophobe. Whether it's called the Ctrl-Left, Regressive Left or Authoritarian Left the rest of us are weary of having their virtue signaling foisted onto the rest of us.

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Wed Jul 5 19:24:54 2017

*fine

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This user has validated their user name. by: White Rabbit

Wed Jul 5 21:13:31 2017

"The level of racism, white supremacy and homophobia on this thread tops anything that I have ever seen on ecommercebytes."

oh get real dude! you are putting words into other people's posts that are not there. If you have a beef.. take it up on another site and don't try this crap here.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Thu Jul 6 06:40:17 2017

LasVagueness, spoken exactly like someone who has never had to fight for their civil rights. Your "I don't want to hear it" stance is exactly why you are hearing it from those tax paying citizens who have to fight for their rights.

And White Rabbit,  "try this crap"? Eloquent, LOL  Putting words into people's mouths that aren't there?  I know what I read.  Your response sounds just like Sarah Huckabee Sanders.  You are aptly named however.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Thu Jul 6 11:37:32 2017

LasVagueness says "Left the rest of us are weary of having their virtue signaling foisted onto the rest of us."

Your use of the word foisting is interesting. If you simply live and let live how is anyone foisting anything on you?  

When did obtaining virtue and high moral standards and emulating them become a bad thing? Somehow, in the last 20 years, a group of Americans emerged who think that it is wrong and chastise anyone who call folks out for forms of expression or actions that exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

I am quite perplexed by the notion in America that people who are empathetic towards others and want equality and fairness for others are perceived as "foisting" or called names like snowflakes.

Getting back to topic, I am guessing that Etsy had to make some tough choices, and remove some items that were deeply offensive to some.  They may have acted too broadly but I think that they meant well.

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This user has validated their user name. by: White Rabbit

Thu Jul 6 13:23:08 2017

what you read is one thing what you decided it meant is another all together. ten people can read a sentence and understand it's meaning differently. The subject here is Etsy not your twisted interpretation of social correctness. Enough of this. I will not reply to you again. You really should post this stuff elsewhere. I suspect it is not the first time you posted this type of thing here.

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Thu Jul 6 15:12:05 2017

White Rabbit says "I will not reply to you again."

Good. You didn't have to respond the first time. And you certainly don't dictate where and when I exercise my right to free speech.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Thu Jul 6 16:53:18 2017

@Rexford If you're not dragging in identity politics then I will be receptive to your argument and find common cause. "Racism, white supremacy and homophobia" have been distorted and exaggerated to such an extent that the words have lost their potency.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Fri Jul 7 06:47:06 2017

LasVagueness says " "Racism, white supremacy and homophobia" have been distorted and exaggerated to such an extent that the words have lost their potency."

I and the Southern Poverty Law Center disagree with you. And with alt right Steve Bannon in the  White House, I expect that things will only get worse.  Take a look at actual statistics of the rise of hate crimes in this country since Trump took office. These are not made up figures. They come directly from the law enforcement of this country. The NRA's latest ad's call for white supremacy and armed insurrection are not made up either.  Watch the video.

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This user has validated their user name. by: LasVagueness

Fri Jul 7 17:49:41 2017

The SPLC also labels Maajid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali  as ''anti-Muslim extremists'' so they have lost much of their credibility. I see you fall into the Ctrl/Regressive Left camp so there is probably not much to engage here after all. Good luck with the 2018 midterm elections.  

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