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Sun May 21 2023 16:09:14

Etsy Recommended Use of Bot Trigger Word 'Amber'

By: Ina Steiner

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Etsy sellers who include the word "amber" in their listings say the marketplace temporarily deactivates them, something they've reported on industry boards since February 2022. So imagine the frustration when sellers found Etsy promoting "amber earrings" and "warm amber beading" in a "trends" report one year later.

In the Etsy Seller Handbook article titled, "Marketplace Insights: 2023 Spring and Summer Trends" (February 22, 2023), Etsy offered advice on prepping shops for the upcoming season, including a guide to trends based on Etsy search data and industry forecasting.

The report included the following advice and information:

Beach beads and charm necklaces
As folks continue to dress for their inner child, the "kidcore" style has shifted more heavily into jewelry. Resin and glass beads and charm necklaces are on the mind amongst Gen Z shoppers especially, and charms shaped like nostalgic flowers, mushrooms, and animals are among the most coveted.

134% YoY increase in searches on Etsy containing "amber earring"

Stone sensation
Marble has taken the home decor world by storm, and now jewelry is also getting in on the fun. From desert-inspired sandstone rings to warm amber beading, these stones add a regal touch and pair nicely with the loose, shapeless silhouettes that continue to pop up on social media and runways.

135% YoY increase in searches on Etsy containing "sandstone ring"

A seller posting on the Etsy discussion boards pointed to the report and asked, "What is going on here? I thought you couldn't use the word amber in listings."

Another seller responded, "Words that flag, like "Amber, Ivory, Persian, Cuba" will cause a new listing to be pulled, and once someone has confirmed it is okay, it will be reinstated. Etsy hasn't banned the selling of all amber."

Sellers discussing trigger words on a Reddit thread also raised the issue in a thread started on May 1, 2023, when a seller asked, "What keywords will alert Etsy Bots to remove listings even if they're not against Etsy guidelines? Specifically helpful for candle companies."

Someone replied, "Amber and cashmere. I know they're both used as fragrance descriptors," to which the original poster responded, "That's good to know. I have a cashmere vanilla candle, and it got removed. I had no idea why, it makes more sense now. Thank you!"

Another seller piped up, "It's so stupid because Etsy just sent out something with what people were searching and Amber was on the list."

Etsy had emailed some sellers in February of 2022 about the use of the word "amber" in listings, according to a Reddit thread at the time. The seller, who called the policy "clear as mud," included an excerpt of the email notification they'd received:

"In accordance with our Prohibited Items Policy, we have determined that as of February 15, 2022, we will no longer be able to accommodate necklaces, bracelets, or anklets composed of a string or strand of small amber beads, chips, or nuggets smaller than 1.25 inches."

Sellers have reported in various threads over the past year that when they list items with the word amber, Etsy deactivates the listing but later re-activates it, which they presume is caused by a bot flagging the listing and then reactivating it after human review. (And, some sellers say, any time they edit an existing listing with the word amber, the process starts all over again.)

"Bots gone wild" is also a common phrase among sellers on Amazon and eBay who deal with marketplaces' use of automated tools to flag listings they deem violate policies.

What can add to sellers' frustration is the often secretive nature of bot activity. For example, in 2018, sellers reported that eBay was removing their listings for military surplus goods that they had successfully sold for many years. As we wrote at the time, "When sellers asked eBay moderators which keywords to avoid, they received this reply: "Specific keywords are considered internal information, as sharing them would serve to educate those looking to circumvent our filters.""

In its recent trends report, Etsy told sellers shoppers are looking for amber, but it failed to include a warning that the use of the term in listings would likely get them flagged.

Note: See more on the bot trigger word "cashmere" in this March 2023 EcommerceBytes Newsflash story.

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by: lessthanthreerecords This user has validated their user name.

Sun May 21 17:11:45 2023

"I have a cashmere vanilla candle, and it got removed. I had no idea why, it makes more sense now."

When irrational bot decisions "make more sense" to actual humans, I'm afraid our species is doomed!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Rexford

Sun May 21 18:47:15 2023

Bot rot

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Sun May 21 21:47:41 2023

Bots suck. But humans are to blame for tolerating bots' ever-increasing presence in the things that affect us.

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 22 00:38:30 2023

“… we will no longer be able to accommodate necklaces, bracelets, or anklets composed of a string or strand of small amber beads, chips, or nuggets …”

We now live in an age where corporate laziness disguises itself in a cloak of ‘protectionism’ and in so doing, would prefer to dismiss a whole variety class of a popular items robotically, than it would to even attempt to apply basic human rationale.

Just to be spared the expense, and with nary a concern how that may cost others they profess to ‘serve’.  

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by: Inge This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 22 09:12:35 2023

Bots removed two of my listings that contained the word "amber" but had nothing to do with the actual amber, but simply described the color.  Previously bots removed listings by certain fashion designers.  It was hell to get them reinstated.  Ditto for the amber dilemma.  Does etsy even still have an email where people can ask to be re-instated?  

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by: AnotherTime This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 22 10:36:35 2023

This is insane!  I have  vintage amber necklace with gorgeous chunky beads and wirework. I Was waiting for a good seasonal time to sell it.  Now can't??? These restrictions are so pathetic.  PO'd beyond words.  

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by: LDWCallsOut This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 22 11:14:57 2023

I am guessing that the folks who write about ''trends'' for Etsy shop owners are unfamiliar with the parts of the Seller Handbook that deal with anything but marketing.  

I recall seeing a post in the Etsy Forums from a seller who tried to list a Native American artist made vintage cuff bracelet set with a large amber cabochon (not drilled!) and had the item deactivated.  Even though no BEADS were used to craft it.

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by: BurglePork This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 22 12:22:31 2023

I don't understand at all what Etsy's problem with amber is (LDW, cabs are okay but not beads?? what?) but the way it's being handled is textbook Etsy nonsense. When I tell people I no longer sell on Etsy, I don't even try to explain why, it's waaay too complicated!

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by: Sparklesalot2 This user has validated their user name.

Mon May 22 15:53:13 2023

All of my amber words were color descriptions and all were taken out of my shop until I changed the word to orange, golden, and/or yellow. I was one of the sellers who was annoyed with the word being highlighted as a word that buyers are looking for in searches. I might try to go back to trying to use it on one or two of my listings and see what happens.

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Mon May 22 18:25:58 2023

This is what happens when you let stupid bots make decisions.

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by: LDWCallsOut This user has validated their user name.

Tue May 23 13:04:37 2023

@BurglePork -- someone quoted above from an email sent to an Etsy shop owner about the amber restriction:

''In accordance with our Prohibited Items Policy, we have determined that as of February 15, 2022, we will no longer be able to accommodate necklaces, bracelets, or anklets composed of a string or strand of small amber beads, chips, or nuggets smaller than 1.25 inches.''

''String or strand'' implies drilled beads rather than a cab set into a cuff bracelet by a metalsmith.

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by: That Guy This user has validated their user name.

Thu May 25 14:46:34 2023

Will someone please explain to me WHY amber beads are prohibited on Esty?

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by: Snapped This user has validated their user name.

Fri May 26 14:22:22 2023

“Why are amber beads prohibited on Etsy?
The FDA says choking can occur if the necklace or bracelet breaks and a bead enters the child's throat or airway. The strangulation risk is also very real as the necklace can not only twist and become too tightly wrapped around the neck, it can also catch on other objects including parts of the baby's crib. May 13, 2019.”

(Gotta love that Google thing.)

See, it’s a case of ‘the ends justifying the means’.  But the ‘means’ are motivated by lazy arrogance, with no concern for collateral damages.



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