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Wed June 19 2019 20:40:13

Wealthy Technocrats Want to Control Movement of Money

By: Ina Steiner

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Some super wealthy people who control large corporations came up with a system independent of governments that they say will benefit poor people, and its purpose is to move money around the globe.

That is one way to describe Facebook's brainchild that is endorsed by financial services and high tech companies and is called Libra, a cryptocurrency.

Facebook's announcement and Libra's website heavily promote the benefits to poor people, the unbanked, and developing nations. But members of the organization created to govern Libra heavily skews toward Western corporations and venture capitalists, along with a handful of nonprofit and multilateral organizations, with all but two of those focused on the Western world. 

Whoever establishes cryptocurrency first will have a tremendous advantage - the network effect - and may wield tremendous power.

CNBC has an article from last month about what was known at the time about the Facebook cryptocurrency project, which was codenamed stablecoin, and Facebook board member (and former PayPal president) Peter Thiel's role. "If Facebook succeeds in scaling its blockchain payments project to its more than 2 billion users, the company will deliver on Peter Thiel's original vision of online payments."

Another article from 2012 indicates Libra may not be Facebook's first attempt at a global currency. "In 2010, speculation was rampant that Facebook Credits would become the first global currency," Futuristspeaker wrote. It also outlines Thiel's involvement (along with some former colleagues, sometimes referred to as the "PayPal Mafia") in various online payment firms.

We're moving into uncharted territory, and world economies are at stake. But the chairman of the US Federal Reserve seemed unconcerned on Wednesday: "As for potential effects on monetary policymaking, Powell said that "we're a long way from that," going on to note that "digital currencies are in their infancy,"" Coindesk reported. 

Is that what Facebook and Libra told Chairman Powell?

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This user has validated their user name. by: Life During Wartime

Fri Jun 21 10:57:40 2019

Moonwishes sez: "... poor people in the USA are generally extremely wealthy as compared to the poor in third world countries. Many of the poor here have their cell phones, computers of some type, TVs and cable or downloaded TV shows, etc. "

The above describes urban and suburban poor.  I lived 10 years in a rural county with less than 20K residents.  Fewer than 60% of the adult residents could read and write at the 8th grade level -- which is a lower percentage than most developing nations.  A significant minority of the residents belonged to a cultural group that removes children from school at age 14.  I was an adult literacy volunteer, and discovered that it was not unusual for adults not to be able to write their own full name and address, or make change.  

I moved away in the late 1990s, before smart phones, but I'm sure some people have them because it's mot about reading -- just learning the meaning of icons and viewing pictures and videos.  And regular land line phone service isn't always available (imagine that in the UsA).  This group of people often do not have running water (not even a yard pitcher pump), plumbing (no water, duh), or electricity other than maybe a generator.

There's a difference between being poor because of some unfortunate event in your family that caused an unrecoverable financial setback, and choosing to live like it's the 16th Century.  I should add that these people are descendants of folks who came to North America centuries ago speaking English as their native tongue.  They are families of illegal "migrants".

Yes, they are "unbanked",  No, they do not have driver's licenses (but own junk cars and drive anyway, uninsured).  

Any kind of crypto-currency revolution will pass them by, just like universal free public education did.

People who live in developing nations, as a group, are emerging from poverty at increasingly rapid levels.  They want more "civilization" than they currently have, and barring wars or natural disasters, they will build it.  If crypto-currency reaches some of these places before infrastructure like good roads and public transportation, then "spirit money" -- aka virtual money -- makes sense.  

Not that I like and/or trust this group of "wealthy technocrats" myself. But the idea of this being a possible benefit to residents of developing nations isn't all that "out there".

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This user has validated their user name. by: Life During Wartime

Fri Jun 21 10:59:09 2019

Oops.  I meant to say "they are not NOT families of illegal migrants".  

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by: Ebay Little Shop of Horrors This user has validated their user name.

Fri Jun 21 13:03:14 2019

Life During Wartime, where, exactly, is this rural county you speak of?

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by: Ebay Little Shop of Horrors This user has validated their user name.

Fri Jun 21 13:15:15 2019

You're a billionaire and certain things are expected of you. You vacation in the same spots at the same time of year. You have art and wine. You hate wine. Art bores you. You dont eat seafood. You prefer McDonalds.

You use the same contractors, interior designers, shopping assistants, chefs, because its expected. You'd rather buy your clothes at JC Penny.

What billionaire does not have their hands in crypto? That would really get you ostracized. They probably dont understand it either, but its mandatory.

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by: mcposty This user has validated their user name.

Fri Jun 21 17:41:26 2019

If I was libra, id deny ebays aplication. I would not want that mess of a reputation tied to it

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