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Thu June 1 2017 10:47:41

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

By: Ina Steiner

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Borrowing a page out of eBay's playbook, Etsy will begin placing ads for "recommended items" inside sellers' listings. "Similar items from other shops may also appear on your listing pages during the experiment," Etsy informed sellers. Read more about it here.

Etsy also gave sellers an ultimatum about payments and reminded sellers one last time yesterday:

"One final reminder that if you're in an eligible country and don't set up Etsy Payments by the end of the day today, May 31, your listings will no longer be visible to buyers and you won't be able to make sales. You can still access your shop, listing information, and Conversations, and you can still make purchases on Etsy as a buyer. You can re-activate your shop at any time by setting up Etsy Payments."

Let us know what you think and if you're affected by these and other changes. Is Etsy going down a similar road as eBay?




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Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

by: sellerchick This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jun 1 11:25:06 2017

My sales have TANKED on Etsy over the past 2 months and the only thing I can blame is all the chaotic changes they have made. That reminds me, time to turn off all the money I am wasting on promoted listings now.

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Thu Jun 1 12:42:18 2017

@Ina - Is there any way you can find out how many stores have been suspended? I know from reading their Forum threads that a lot of people are refusing to sign up for EP because of the sensitive information Etsy is requiring.

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 13:48:34 2017


Regarding the portion of Ina's article, about ''Recommended Items'' on Etsy pages, below is the headline at Etsy, from the link Ina posted:

''Building a Great Customer Experience''
''We’re making it easier to find and buy items on Etsy, so your shop can succeed''

Actually reading the article made me want to vomit.  This is one of the finest pieces of garbage double speak to ever come out of Ebay or Etsy.

It shows two things;

1)  How incredibly stupid the powers at Etsy are.  They have NO concept of how this will affect their core HANDMADE & VINTAGE sellers.

    They do of course have hopes for how it will affect the slave labor made, and fake vintage foreign sellers.  Mostly Asian sellers, from small fake shops to large mass machine stamped production shops.  The recent UPS announcement will further the advantage of those sellers.

2)  It also shows how little they think of their core sellers;  Do they think ANY OF THIS CRAP will be believed?  Stuff like this is REALLY OFFENSIVE.  I for one am not stupid enough to believe a word of it.

    Do they actually believe that we would think this was a ''GOOD THING''?  Sure, like ads at Ebay........  Now at Etsy, I FINALLY, come up, in their WORTHLESS search, and what happens?  So do the Fake sellers, on MY search results.

Yes, Etsy IS going down a similar road as Ebay.

And, if you have been on the fence until now, RUN, don't walk to another site, or build your own.  You will NEVER get a clearer warning, that Etsy is now a DOLLAR STORE, for cheap, fake, knockoffs, and that there is no room for small sellers.  This is a CLEAR WARNING that a change in management is even WORSE, than feared.  It is IMPOSSIBLE to turn this around.

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 14:46:11 2017

@ iheartjacksparrow

This will get you the current stores, with 1 active listing.  Maybe someone will have the number from a week or so ago..........

https://www.etsy.com/search/shops?search_query=+

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 14:48:28 2017

I looked an hour ago, and there were 1,9xx,xxx (didnt write it down).

Now: 1,008,985, so a few less......

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 15:57:16 2017

The above post was wrong, it should have said:

I looked an hour ago, and there were 1,xx9,xxx (didnt write it down).

Now: 1,008,985, so a few less......  

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

by: pennyemporium This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jun 1 16:48:34 2017

also, in a forum posting, etsy says that the shop suspensions will be ''rolling'' and happen over the next several days;

''Megan L from meganinhudson 12:05pm Jun 1, 2017 EDT
Beginning today, we are suspending sellers’ listings if they haven’t added Etsy Payments. With thousands of sellers and listings to suspend, it may take our system a few days to process.''

( https://www.etsy.com/teams/7716/announcements/discuss/18325841/page/1 )

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 19:19:51 2017

Now: 993,549

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Thu Jun 1 19:43:18 2017

@BuildingMyOwnSite - Thank you for the information. So they've already suspended about one hundred thousand stores? That seems like a huge number.  

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 20:03:57 2017

Now: 987,765

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

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Thu Jun 1 20:15:48 2017

@ iheartjacksparrow

I got started late, and I made a mistake in my first post, which should have referred to:

1,009,xxx at about 4pm EST

There are now about:
 987,765 shops at about 8pm EST

Sorry for the mistake, the ''9'' was in the wrong place, in the third post that I made..

At this point, more than 21,235 shops closed in the last 4 hours.  The Etsy forums are alive with shops that are watching themselves get closed.............

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 20:53:47 2017

987,765 shops at about 8pm EST
982,856 @ 8:36 Est
=======
4909 more shops gone, in 36 minutes

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

by: raggs This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jun 1 21:13:48 2017

When will adults finally supervise the Etsy Romper Room so this madness stops!

Etsy is losing some great sellers who brought a lot of business to the site and those customers will follow them to their new sites!  

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 21:30:32 2017

@raggs

There are no adults at Etsy!!!!!!!!!!

Where have your been??????????

And they have already said;

This will take a few days (to fire all the handmade sellers).........

What will Wall Street say?

(I feel bad for all the small sellers that built Etsy, but just can't build their own sites),

Good luck to you all!

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 21:45:57 2017

Etsy:

May 1:
1,013,270 shops

Now:
June 1, 9:28 pm EST:
0,978,740 shops

Difference:
0,034,530 shops

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: BuildingMyOwnSite

Thu Jun 1 22:18:04 2017

Etsy:

May 1, 2017:
1,013,270 shops

June 1, 2017:
0,976,626 shops

Difference:
0,036,644 shops gone.

Etsy paraphrase:  ''This will take several days''

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

by: Writings on the Wall This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jun 1 22:18:40 2017

Etsy's strong-arm tactics will backfire and they will be dealing with the Law of Unintended Consequences come next quarter SEC filing. I think they underestimated the seller's disdain.

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

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Thu Jun 1 22:23:03 2017

@Writings on the Wall

I SINCERELY hope you are right.

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

This user has validated their user name. by: iheartjacksparrow

Thu Jun 1 23:08:52 2017

Is the consensus that Etsy underestimated the number of people that wouldn't sign up for EP?

Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum   Etsy Sellers Deal with Ads in Listings and Payments Ultimatum

by: Writings on the Wall This user has validated their user name.

Thu Jun 1 23:15:47 2017

They issued ultimatums, then extended the deadline, then offered cash incentives (I think $50). I think they seriously thought this strong arm tactic of suspending shops would work. What they didn't realize was that all their changes and B.S. over the past 6 months was driving sellers away--they were thinking of leaving anyway--this was just the last straw. Do they seriously think shops will be suspended and that this will be some incentive to change their minds and sign up for Etsy Payments? These people are seriously goofy! SMH

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