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Fri Apr 24 2015 23:09:10

Etsy Snubs Vintage in Mother's Day Promotion

By: Ina Steiner

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When a seller of antique and vintage home decor and collectibles reported a bug that prevented her from clicking on vintage in a Mother's Day marketing campaign, she discovered it wasn't a glitch, but an intentional decision by Etsy to exclude vintage goods.

"Today's Etsy Finds Email, specifically the Gifts for Mom, is stuck on Handmade," the seller wrote. "Nothing happens when I click on Vintage or All Items."

An Etsy moderator replied, "So, with this particular Browse section, we're not offering "Vintage" as a selection here and that's why it has been greyed out. Depending on the themes, we may or may not display Vintage as an option. As you probably already know, we provide a Browse section fully dedicated to Vintage Items only."

Sellers of vintage goods have long complained they're forgotten or ignored by Etsy management, but this intentional snub has many sellers upset.

Several sellers wondered why they paid the same in fees as sellers of handmade goods but got less exposure to shoppers, such as one who wrote, "I just don't get why this is done. If my items aren't showing available across the site and Etsy is choosing to leave whole categories of sellers out of promotions (supplies and vintage) then why do we pay the same fees? I'm not trying to be rude or come across like a jerk. It is a genuine question."

And another seller asked when Etsy would be running a promotion that would only feature Vintage items and exclude handmade, adding, "I dislike seeing any categories excluded from any promotion."

Many wondered why the site would exclude vintage for a Mother's Day promotion. "There are so many wonderful vintage items that would be perfect for Mother's Day. Unique and lovely!"

The thread discussing the issue on the Etsy boards was started on Thursday and has grown to seven pages by Friday evening.



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by: RCL This user has validated their user name.

Sat Apr 25 06:30:56 2015

As a buyer AND seller of vintage "art and collectibles", I too find it aggravating and short-sighted to say the least. There IS one site that caters to "antiques and collectibles": Ruby Lane. Maybe it's time to set up shop there.

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by: ajeweler This user has validated their user name.

Sat Apr 25 09:34:51 2015

I was under the impression etsy was only hand made and vintage items? now they are snubbing vintage???? @RCL try SpeediTrade they have lots of used and vintage and the site is very responsive to both buyers and sellers too I love it no stress!!

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This user has validated their user name. by: Basset

Sat Apr 25 10:08:01 2015

I know many mothers who collect vintage items and would love a piece of their collection for a gift. How shortsighted.  

Not to mention ''vintage'' pays the same fees for exposure as everyone else.  

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by: kayscrochet This user has validated their user name.
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Sat Apr 25 13:36:55 2015

But notice supplies isn't mentioned at all. Supplier sellers get even less mention and promotion then vintage. And supply sellers probably bring the most buyers and traffic.

I sell many crochet and knitting needle sets for Mothers Day. Etsy's market research in their Mothers Day picks is really poor.  

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This user has validated their user name. by: bitbybit

Sat Apr 25 14:02:59 2015

Aren't most mothers ''vintage''? Vintage used as an endearing, loving term and not as old, throwaway or disregarded. Seems to me Etsy is only trying to promote to young mothers and dissing the rest of the mothers. Wouldn't most vintage mothers like to receive a memorable gift from years gone by?

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by: gizmo This user has validated their user name.

Sat Apr 25 14:19:45 2015

Seems like a play out of ebays playbook. Throttle 1 - promote another. I dont understand venues screwing with their base sellers. Stupid , just Stupid !

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by: Robin This user has validated their user name.
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Sat Apr 25 15:16:09 2015

Etsy's recent decisions are definitely a part of why I am phasing out my vintage shops on Etsy. The other part is personal, I'm getting too busy with portraits, thankfully.

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by: ajeweler This user has validated their user name.

Sat Apr 25 15:32:18 2015

i don't know why etsy would drop or ignore Vintage?? I sell mostly vintage items and sell on SpeediTrade I just ran the numbers and am showing great thru Google
Views  after reading this article wondered how i was doing looks like vintage is a great category??
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by: FREDDY This user has validated their user name.

Sat Apr 25 20:09:47 2015

Sounds like ebay more and more.  
Time to switch.

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This user has validated their user name. by: The End

Sat Apr 25 21:39:00 2015

This why I DELETE ALL PROMOTIONAL EMAILS from Etsy and Ebay.
It's JUNK EMAIL .

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by: Ebay's Slow Death This user has validated their user name.

Sun Apr 26 02:22:06 2015

So, I move my Ebay vintage over to Etsy, and now it is Deja Vu, all over again.  

Why do these companies feel like they have to control and decide what is best for Sellers and Buyers?  Why can't they just show everything available and allow the Buyers to choose what they prefer?

Are they going to ruin Etsy, with managements soaring egos, just like Ebay did?

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by: Watching the Wheels This user has validated their user name.

Sun Apr 26 05:10:17 2015

Well, I see that 2009 and 2010 are repeating.

Now that Etsy is public, there ARE articles that will appear under the finance page charts. They usually accept comments, too.

As a veteran Etsy seller, complaining in the forums will accomplish NOTHING. IF you want any sort of results you need the write the real decision makers, THE BOARD. Not that they will get it completely right either, but they will do something.

Keep the letters professional. Do not expect a reply, because they have no manners either.

Do some digging and learn some of the behind the scenes real history behind some of the CEO changes. It is not exactly how it plays out in the Etsy blog.

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by: Watching the Wheels This user has validated their user name.

Sun Apr 26 05:48:58 2015

RCL, Ruby lane is too expensive. I THOROUGHLY checked them out before Etsy.

It still boils down the fact that SITE TRAFFIC is King.

Follow the money; write the board.  

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by: tawhite This user has validated their user name.

Sun Apr 26 15:26:27 2015

Thanks for posting this. It's incited quite a few vintage sellers on Etsy and the original forum thread in ''Bugs'' continues to grow as more and more vintage sellers hear about it on vintage teams.

The issue has moved to the more visible Discussions area and is at 6 pages after two hours. https://www.etsy.com/teams/7722/discussions/discuss/16275121/page/5

What bugs me, as a vintage seller on Etsy, is that it went public as a B corporation. According to the NY Times, the B status means Etsy cares as much about ''community as they do profits.''

Its deliberate sabotage of vintage, especially for Mother's Day, speaks much louder than any B status hoopla.

Time fr Chad Dickerson and his new board to put up or shut up.

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by: PlumsandHoney This user has validated their user name.

Sun Apr 26 16:39:17 2015

This is unbelievable! Clearly, Etsy is sending us a strong message that vintage and antique sellers are not valued. If we can't sell for Mother's Day, when in the world would we? Rubylane and The Vintage Village, here I come!

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by: Bogart This user has validated their user name.

Sun Apr 26 20:43:41 2015

This is the same company that writes in their business IPO prospectus  under ''Risks Associated With Our Business''
• We expect to increase our marketing efforts to help grow our business, but those efforts may not be effective at attracting new members and retaining existing members.

So more future changes that may scare the rest of us off this site, and for a change they will be so bad that they are even worried about attracting new members.

So why is anyone surprised about anything they do. Folks open your eyes. They care nothing about there members, were a means to an end. Nothing more, nothing less.

They always screw us over. Vintage has always being treated badly.

You guys want to accoomplish something. Then stop listing, stop re-listing and stop filling there pockets with your money. One week would hurt them where it counts. That is the only thing they care about.  

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by: ignatz This user has validated their user name.

Sun Apr 26 22:26:47 2015

Why this company supports vintage items in such a half-assed way is a mystery.  Someone there is missing the boat.  If Etsy were to embrace it fully, they could pull a big chunk of ebay's business their way.  If they don't want it "contaminating" their "hand made in China" chachkis, then they could create an entirely separate brand for it under the Etsy banner.  

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by: JimJuris This user has validated their user name.

Mon Apr 27 00:24:33 2015

I am not surprised by this at all, after all it is Etsy.

Etsy does not care about their customers, their sellers.

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by: fed up This user has validated their user name.

Mon Apr 27 00:25:00 2015

Hand-crafted talent is to be admired, but as a vintage seller, vintage shop owners deserve recognition too!!

There are plenty of people searching for rare collectibles, home décor items, or vintage fashions that were often USA made with recognized quality.

Refusing to list another item in my shop and as soon as my pre-purchased sale credits run out, I am leaving Etsy too.

On the rare occasions when handmade/crafted items are required, I will purchase handmade and hand-crafted items locally.

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by: lalin This user has validated their user name.

Mon Apr 27 01:02:18 2015

Having agreed with every single comment from Etsy Sellers, it seems surreally as though the stone-cold heart of ebay has entered the heart of the Etsy board. To the Etsy Board, please, say it isn't so!!!!

PS: My mom and her daughter and her granddaughters, who are also mothers, all LOVE vintage jewelry.  How dare you exclude the vintage category in your promotion???  How will the fathers, sons, sons-in-law, and grandsons know where to look??????

It isn't a rhetorical question; and, it isn't funny.

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