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Covering auctions, collectibles and marketplace selling.

Julia Wilkinson is Editor of the AuctionBytes Blog and is author of the "eBay Price Guide," "eBay Top 100 Simplified Tips and Tricks," "My Life at AOL" and numerous ebooks about selling online. You can also find her writing on Yard Salers.
Tue Aug 19 2008 23:59:54

eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees

By: Ina Steiner
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eBay briefed me today on changes that it was announcing publicly at midnight (Eastern). I'm scrambling to get all the news into Newsflash. The press release mostly talked about pricing changes, but there were five areas of change covered: Pricing; Finding; Shipping; Seller Standards; and Payments. See the homepage for stories (and check your inbox if you are a Newsflash subscriber).

Analysis: One of the major changes was the price change of BIN Fixed-Price format to a flat 35 cent insertion fee (and the change in duration from 7 days standard to 30 days). While it's a core format, in some ways, this is as if eBay took Stores, raised listing fees (which currently range from between 3 cents to 10 cents for 30 days) and made them 35 cents for 30 days; moderately tweaked FVFs (raising in some categories, lowering in some small instances in certain categories); and exposed the listings to Core search. eBay Stores also have a monthly subscription fee, which BIN Fixed-Price listings do not.

Just to be really clear, eBay did NOT do this - Store inventory remains unchanged; auction format remains unchanged. What is changing is the BIN Fixed-Price format in core. You really have to read the article first, so here's the link.

I asked Dinesh Lathi of eBay's Selling Team and Jeff King of eBay's Finding Team about revising listings, for sellers who may want to move multiple listings from Stores to the new fixed-price format on core. Jeff King followed up in an email:

"It's easy to take advantage of the new format in both Turbolister and Selling Manager Pro. In SMPro there is a simple "Send to Fixed Price" flow. Go into My eBay / Selling Manager, select the items you want to change, then click "Send to Fixed Price." There is no limit on the # of items that you can process at once though sellers generally don't do more than a couple thousand at a time. This effectively ends the SIF item, and relists with the new format. Note that they're charged the IF for the new item. Turbolister has a similar flow, with one additional step, but it's equally trivial."

Here are the new rates that eBay will be posting to their site later today - how will this affect the category(s) in which you sell?










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This user has validated their user name. by: Ina
       
Wed Aug 20 00:34:27 2008
When I read that in certain categories for the BIN Fixed-Price format that FVFs were decreasing from 8.75% to 6% or 8%, I thought this was a decrease. But look carefully - the tranche has been redefined. I took out pencil and paper, and was surprised at what I found. Yes, a decrease at certain levels, but not as much as I thought.

Just be sure you are comparing apples to apples when you go to do your own calculations.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Another powerseller
       
Wed Aug 20 00:46:40 2008
I like it, thankyou ebay. Would you please roll this out in Australia too? Its a good idea.

eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Mike G
       
Wed Aug 20 00:58:34 2008
I wonder if they will allow integration of other card processors, like Paymentech, into the order flow porcess? Will this eliminate the unpaid bidder issue?

I do suspect that by not allowing checks or money orders there will be certain amount of business that some will be able to collect of site if they choose.

The end result, especially with a push to 100% Pay Pal will be higher fees across the board when it all nets out. Add in the push for free shipping for search placement and you see where it all goes.

Thanks for the Heads-up!
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Henrietta
       
Wed Aug 20 01:03:45 2008
If a media seller is going to have to pay 15% FVF plus a listing fee, however low, deal with fixed shipping and then pay PayPal fees on top why would they remain on eBay?

At Amazon they will pay 15% with no listing fee, listing is good until sold, fixed shipping, and Amazon deals with payment. Yes there is a subscription which is waived for high volume high class sellers and I believe in some categories a small processing fee.

Most importantly, a quality of life issue, you don't have to deal with eBay OR the new style eBay buyer.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: RT
       
Wed Aug 20 01:04:07 2008
Once again eBay makes a 'cool and interesting' change, BUT kills the 'cool and interesting' part by jacking up their fees ONCE AGAIN.
How many times in 1 year can they raise their fees?
They are turning the BIN format into a 30 day running Amazon listing.
At least on Amazon I do NOT get charged to list a item.
I think I will list MORE items there since the Final Value Fees are about the same now but at least the listing is free on Amazon.
Hey eBay - You should change your name during your next change.... Something like eMazon maybe?
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
This user has validated their user name. by: Ina
       
Wed Aug 20 01:05:59 2008
Where I was heading in my analysis section above was this. You may look at it as an Insertion Fee decrease and FVF increase for Fixed Price core listings.

But people with eBay Stores are already paying high FVFs, but very low listings. So they might look at it as, I'm paying more in listing fees for this format than stores, but getting tons more exposure by showing up on core - compared to my Store inventory.

Is this move similar to Stores in Search of 2006? Major differences are higher Insertion fees and Best Match.

Dying to hear what sellers think of the changes. If you leave a comment, you might include the category in which you sell and if you have a Store, to see if there are differences in how this news is received.

Thanks!
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Mechelle
       
Wed Aug 20 01:08:54 2008
Am I reading this right- is the new FVF for books 15%??
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: ebayvet
       
Wed Aug 20 01:12:55 2008
I am just starting to digest this, and as a media seller, I think overall it is a positive change. If I have 10 of an item that I do BIN for $9.99, that would cost me $2 to list right now for a 7 day listing. $8 for 28 days. The new rate would be 15 cents for 30 days. My FVF would increase, but I would rather put more risk at the end of the transaction than the beginning. For media sellers with quantity of an item to sell, this is a good change. For non media sellers that sell unique items, it is not going to be a change that will be as good.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: RT
       
Wed Aug 20 01:13:50 2008
Once again eBay makes a 'cool and interesting' change, BUT kills the 'cool and interesting' part by jacking up their fees ONCE AGAIN.

How many times in 1 year can they raise their fees?
They are turning the BIN format into a 30 day running Amazon listing.

At least on Amazon I do NOT get charged to list a item.
I think I will list MORE items there since the Final Value Fees are about the same now but at least the listing is free on Amazon.
AND I do not have to deal with the buyer abuse that sellers are forced to take on eBay.


Hey eBay - You should change your name during your next change.... Something like eMazon maybe?

I am a PowerSeller...
No Store
Selling in Ladies Clothing.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Drew11
       
Wed Aug 20 01:14:10 2008
15% FVF + paypal + 15 cent listing fee? Ebay just destroyed their media category. Totally uncompetitive with Amazon and FAR more work. Is this on purpose to give buy.com free reign?
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Mechelle
       
Wed Aug 20 01:15:52 2008
I have a premium level store so I already pay 12% - so the BIN change really doesn't effect me other than if I put something as fixed and it doesn't get as much attention as eBay would like it will get no exposure for my 35 cents.

I'm in Health and Beauty

This PayPal thing isn't going to just fly- that is a bunch of BS.  I'm already working on this issue and now they just made it easier- so I'll thank you for that eBay!
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Scott
       
Wed Aug 20 01:16:37 2008
Yes, I agree that they will push some of the buyer than wish to use check or money order off of the site. Also How does a buyer pay when they are having problems with paypal? They have an option to complete the transaction with the current setup. I know that I have had gotten sales because I accepted money orders.

The push for 100% paypal is exactly what the Australians said was coming. I still think the reason for free shipping push is to increase the fees. You will have to increase the price to cover the shipping. It is really not free.

eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: ebayvet
       
Wed Aug 20 01:22:58 2008
"Totally uncompetitive with Amazon and FAR more work. Is this on purpose to give buy.com free reign?"

I don't think so - maybe for a small ebay seller, but those with quantity, it will make ebay a selling channel that is more reasonable than it is now. I only tend to list on ebay when they have fixed price sales...it will be like a sale everyday. It won't move me from amazon, but will allow me to list on ebay and amazon. If you sell one of a title though, then it is a change that isn't as good.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
This user has validated their user name. by: Ina
       
Wed Aug 20 01:26:52 2008
Another point to keep in mind, since this is a lot of news (!), these fees only apply to BIN Fixed Price format. Auction and Store fees are unchanged. And, I double-checked: You may list an auction with BIN price under the current fee structure, that will remain unchanged.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: ebayvet
       
Wed Aug 20 01:37:30 2008
That is true Ina, but I think the writing is on the wall for ebay stores. I easily see them raising the listing fee to 5 cents (the same amount the "sale" is going to have) while moving up to 15% FVF - That would cause me to actually eith close my ebay store - or radically change the way I stock it.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Mechelle
       
Wed Aug 20 02:15:15 2008
"I do suspect that by not allowing checks or money orders there will be certain amount of business that some will be able to collect of site if they choose."

No- 1) this is already against policy, 2) it will be double against policy, and 3) we'll no longer be able to access email from buyers or sellers because eBay is anonymizing  the email system and will be scanning communication for contact information, which of course if caught is another policy violation.

It is all about PayPal
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Dee
       
Wed Aug 20 02:16:50 2008
Who will see our store listings now? I depend on my eBay Store sales (and multipe sales, most of them) for my livelihood. Now, eBay Store listings will be buried beheath a gazillion fixed price listings--in most instance never coming up at all because there will be more than 30 of EVERYTHING in core.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Sean
       
Wed Aug 20 02:17:05 2008
Ina,

I have received your email updates for many years and I've always wondered why your "Analysis" always seems thin? I don't think you want to drink the Kool-Aid, but some weeks I have my doubts when I see you constantly letting eBay slide on major issues. Why do you consistently cave-in to the powers-that-be at FeeBay??

I have wanted you to not just report on these announcements, but give us some in-depth analysis - tell us your side of things. We're in the middle of an e-commerce War - and it's time to take sides. Haven't you skated on this thin ice for long enough??

Take a stand!! I know you will claim "journalistic impartiality' and all that mumbo-jumbo, but c'mon. You've had narry a word about this push to eliminate mos and checks. What do you THINK about all of this?????

Though I expect you to delete this tirade, please consider that after almost ten years on eBay, this is my first email to you. Your readers really, really want to hear WHAT YOU THINK, not just the party line.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Just a Seller
       
Wed Aug 20 02:30:27 2008
Ebay is making significant changes yet again! Those changes will have a dramatic influence on what and how items are shown to buyers by forcing sellers to change pricing and inventories.
I am not sure how good/bad that is but just for starters I would say I consider it as a positive move.
I am not a powerseller and I have an ebay.uk based shop. The fee structure as it is, along with the cross border  invisibility between the US/UK sites had reduced my USA sales from 20-30% to around 0%. Now I will be able to keep my UK store AND start listing back on ebay.com.

And yes - fees are tremendously high. But low fees on ebay are a thing of the past and as much as it hurts that will never change so I treat it as a fact.

And to all who are afraid of international dealers like myself flooding the site with overpriced ''junk'' let me tell you this: I am an international small seller(Non US and Non European) with 100% feedback and with 5,5,5,4.9 DSR! So not all of us ''foreigners'' are that bad and our money as buyers and selling standards as sellers are not necessarily bad as you might think. In fact we compete with you guys having the disadvantage of high shipping costs and a built-in prejudice against non-US sellers. Still some of us are doing very well and our clients confirm that.
eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees   eBay Makes Major Changes to Fixed Price Fees
by: Stephen
       
Wed Aug 20 02:36:33 2008
Please note, ebay will now have fixed allowable shipping and handling charges for media items, I didn't see that listed in your article. That sets quite a precedent....
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